Good universal player to replace a Wadia 850

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budyog

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« Reply #20 on: 12 Oct 2005, 08:59 pm »
Hey Ears
   In case you haven't seen my post about the wonderfull Onkyo-1000, here is the thread link.
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=20867

It is everything you said it would be and more. :D   :D   :D    :D   :D

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« Reply #21 on: 13 Oct 2005, 05:53 am »
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...it shows that I can only afford the top range Denon players if I trade in the Wadia.  :(


That seems such a waste. How about keeping the Wadia for 2-ch duties and get a midrange universal player like the Denon 2200 or even lower range Yamaha 1500. I'd say Yamaha 2500 but i'm not sure anyone's actually seen one...


I have a chance to bring my Wadia 850 to compare against a Esoteric DV50S.  In my friend's system,  the first few seconds of switching over to the Wadia convince me that the Wadia is for keep.  My friend also has a BAT CD player, and convince me that a dedicated CD player is necessary.  The deterioration in the sound compared to even such a high end universal player is scary...

budyog

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« Reply #22 on: 13 Oct 2005, 03:51 pm »
Just an FYI, On the Onkyo 1000, you can shut down all video circuitry with just a push of a button. A very nice feature.

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« Reply #23 on: 5 Nov 2005, 03:54 am »
Unniversal Players suffer due to the following:(saved from notes)

John Atkinson made a statement concerning DVDP's being poor for the use of Redbook CD's. I ,along with some others I have talked with have had the same impression of these players,but the reason for poor performance was never addressed until JA mentioned that the "master clock frequencies required by MPEG
video decoding are very different from that required for CD playback".
I bought a DVDP recently which no way came close to the performance of my much older Philips CDP.

My question is what DVDP's that are out there do not have this problem. If there are DVDP's that do not have the capability to play MP3's will that allow to by-pass or eliminate this problem.Put another way what should one look for? No MP3 Capability?

Those that are serious about what they use generally dislike MP3's and feel it's a step back for audio ,but use DVD's in HT setups. Would like to know what there is for alternatives that will not degrade redbook playback while allowing the player to also have DVD capability.

Hope I phrased that correctly!
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The JA post is copied below


John Atkinson 19:45:32 07/03/04 (15)

In Reply to: Stereophile & The Absolute Sound Critiques of DVD Players posted by Welly Wu on July 03, 2004 at 18:53:27:

> have read in both Stereophile and The Absolute Sound
> that the editors think DVD players do not make for outstanding
> Compact Disc players in general for technical reasons. Might
> I inquire specifically what those technical reasons are? What is it
> specifically that John Atkinson is talking about?

The problem is that the master clock frequencies required by MPEG
video decoding are veryy different from that required for CD playback.
So, with the majority of the DVD players I have examined, their
noise floors when playing back CDs are contaminated with enharmonic
rubbish. In the worst case, this reduced dynamic range to less than
14 bits' worth, ie, audible degradation.

The best DVD-based players, like the Ayre D1x, the long-
discontinued California Audio Labs CL-20, and the Linn Unidisk did
not suffer from this problem, but are/were/are not cheap. :-(

I have just received the Toshiba 3950 I said I was buying, and will
be putting it through its technical paces in the next couple of days.

Happy Independence Day (my first as a US citizen)

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
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This is my first post here in over a yr. as I have been out of this due to personal reasons.

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« Reply #24 on: 5 Nov 2005, 04:04 am »
BTW the best thing to do is to purchase a good universal while keeping a dedicated CDP in the system.Atleast that is what I have done and it works for me.

I have 2 cheap DVDP's.One being a Pioneer Uni and the other being a Panasonic which excel's at DVD's,but does not play SACD and a few other formats.

The Pioneer is a dog where Video is concerned,but plays all music formats.

I stil  use an Old Phillips CD-80 which is used as a Transport.I hope the thing never dies as it is rock solid and tracks almost every CD I have ever tried.

I will be changing things around and purchasing different equipment ,but the Philly will stay with me till it dies or I go.  

Good luck!

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« Reply #25 on: 9 Nov 2005, 05:54 pm »
Just to add ,if a player that plays MP3's and comes with Dual Lasers it is said to help in playback of Redbook.

I know thse that own dedicated CDPs' hold on to those players even if they were made in the late 80's like the Philly I own.

Good Luck!