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beat

would anyone be interested in this?
« on: 15 Jul 2005, 02:03 am »
Hey guys,
I was just curious if it might do good for anything other than PCs.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=770423&sku=ULT31502&CMP=EMC-TIGEREMAIL&SRCCODE=WEM929C

at 600w I figured it may do good for a front end??

adios,
beat

Rashiki

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« Reply #1 on: 15 Jul 2005, 08:08 pm »
I've heard that the AC generated by most UPS systems is not very "clean". They protect against spikes, but they don't generate a nice clean sine wave like a typical audio-targeted power conditioner. I remember reading a warning in a UPS manual about using it with non-PC equipment.

Of course, the only way to find out for sure is to try it and/or do some measurements.

 -Rob

BillyM

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« Reply #2 on: 15 Jul 2005, 10:51 pm »
I didn't think most of that type of backup modified the output unless there was a problem +/- 4-5hz or +/- 10v.  The software on my server backup (1k watt) shows output and input as the exact same (freq +/-1 and voltage +/-3-4 depending on the time of day) until it clicks over to battery mode.  ...I could be wrong though.  

--billyM

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« Reply #3 on: 15 Jul 2005, 11:34 pm »
Many of the garden variety UPS inverters output a square wave, or close to it.  It is rich in odd order harmonic distortion, primarily 3rd, 5th and 7th.   Actually, this type waveform will provide a more efficient power transformation in rectifier fed equipment with linear power supplies.  However, the harmonic distortion does not always sit well with equipment not designed for this type input waveform.  So it is probably better to avoid it unless you speak to the vendor who's equipment is being fed by this UPS.

There are sine wave inverters on the market - though you need to carefully examine the specifications on these units.  Some don't provide the type harmonic, RFI attenuation, and general power conditioning desired for high performance audio playback applications.  The added  series impedance should also be evaluated for suitability - especially if feeding a power amp.  

There are high performance isolation transformers such as the MGE Topaz 100 which provide superb performance specifications, such as 140db common mode rejection, and feature a double shielded transformer with a UL rating for suitability in the medical industry.

Depending on the power quality and reliability at your specific location, the Topaz 800 may be better suited due to it's momentary ride through capability and superb harmonic trap and attenuation.  This type conditioner does come with some compromises though, it is of ferroresonant topology and will emit bit more audible noise than a straight isolation transformer, as well as being a bit less efficient.  It is best located in an ajacent or another room, perhaps near the power panel and feeding a dedicated audio circuit.  It offers performance specifications that are often not found in the vocabulary of many audio power conditioners.

With any of these approaches sizing and suitability should be evaluated in order to ensure an optimum selection.

http://www.mgeups.com/products/pdt120/powerc/tpz100/t100.htm

http://www.mgeups.com/products/pdt120/powerc/tpz800/index.htm

TheChairGuy

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« Reply #4 on: 16 Jul 2005, 11:41 am »
Heckuva price on an AVR unit at $69.99.  

I bought a CyberPower unit from Best Buy over a year ago for $129.99 and thought THAT was good value.

For me, it degraded performance of my audio system.  Not sure what factor it's due to, but it did.  However, it now resides in my (very modest) video system.....it did much to improve the picture of the 24" Sony. As audio is secondary concern there (cheap, 20 year old Onkyo receiver drives everything) that's where it resides today.

It did similarly excelent things with my computer screen, too, but as the AVR regulator/battery went on and off so often, the noise was driving me a bit nuts (my PC is housed in an armoire so everything s amplified in the 'box')