For the lucky ones waiting arrival of a T8 or ultra, here is something to heighten your anticipation. In the late spring I visited AVA to pick up a power amp. Frank asked if I still listened to vinyl and I replied yes. He said "would you like to listen to something we've been working on?" and of course I said yes. He pulled out an old favorite vinyl album and put it on. I assume that I was listening to the phono section of either the T8 or the ultra. Anyway, the dynamic range, impact, detail, and realism was unlike anything I've ever heard on vinyl, tape, CD, or anything else, short of live music. He played it through the B&W 801's and I think the power amp was a big Fet Valve 500. It was a fully orchestrated piece and there was an unexpected whack on a bass drum at the end that literally made me jump in my chair. I think you folks are going to love your new pre-amps. In the meantime, I'm just thoroughly enjoying my Ultimate 70 and T7SLR.