[maxwalrath]

I stumbled on this website a few months ago, I think following a link in an audiogon ad....

http://www.dhcones.com/otheracc.html




Reading about the assortment of products, I honestly checked my time and date display in the corner of my computer to make sure it wasn't April Fools Day.

These things just got reviewed in 6moons, so I guess they exist...but I wish I could have ANY sort of sensible explanation as to why they work.

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/jsmr/ultra.html

[Bemopti123]

The ultra tweeter and the magic ring do not fit the description of any conventional pieces that I have ever read or heard about.  But, let me think, the Magic Ring's function seems to be very similar to the TDK rings that went on cables, to reduce RF and other similar things.  Have them, and did not hear much of an improvement per se.  

The theory behind the Ultra Tweeter, might be credible especially when people had run experiments with ultra tweeters, that go beyond the human hearing range of 20K....Some of them being Infinity Emit and Super Emit tweeters whose range went up to 40K, or was it 45K... Someone ran a test and eventhough it was implausible for anyone ever to be able to hear the difference between regular tweeters and super ones, someone came out with a reasoning saying that the extra Ks in response gave the listening the perception of more naturalness in the highs, almost like sonic headroom.  I sort of believed this, but then, I am also an owner of the Infinity Kappa 9s.  

In paper, there are things that do not make any common sense, but in practicality, they seem to have an audioble effect.  It is due to this that some people stick with radio shack lamp cord speaker cables and cheap interconnects and then, others spend as much as a car on a single run of cables.  

I think the manufacturer of these Ultra tweeters are doing so because there is a market out there.  $400 is not shall I say cheap, but nor is it prohibitibly expensive to catch of jaded audiophiles quest for the ilusional potential audio nirvana.  

Having not "heard" these tweeters can only speculate.  I do believe there is a high percentage of what we call :"built and they come" or in this case, "market them and they will fall for it."

Anyone interesting in laying out $400 for a pair of these and "hear" how they work?

Got another idea, maybe they allow my dog to listen to artifact in the recording that cannot be played with conventional tweeters.

 

Paul

[miklorsmith]

Urg.  I'm a tweaking apologist and I'm no scientist.  My understanding of physical principles related to sound reproduction is weak.  But, when buying tweaks to try, I look for two things:  low cost, and plausibility.  If I have first-hand opportunity to audition, these guidelines are flexible.

These products are not terribly cheap and are very low on the plausibility scale.  Their thin functional descriptions further distance my sensibilities from their claims.  I'll not say they don't work, but neither will I trade my money for them.

The Ultraspeakers somehow organize the signal or sounds from your mains?  The magic rings seem like ferrite rings which aren't too crazy, though ferrite rings are comparatively cheap.  The magic chip  reprograms your aluminum-and-plastic disc in two seconds, placed on top of the player?  This stays with the disc?  It works better on good recordings?

I've built homemade rollerblocks, a dedicated computer burner, own Walker's SST and a demagnitizer.  These crazies I just don't get.

[oris98]

I bought the  intelligent CHip and tried on a few Redbook CDs and it does improve the sound qty.  After the CD being treated, it gives more detail and the base is tighter.  It just like clear up some of the hasse to enable you to see clear.  Sounds are more natural and put more depth to the sound stage.
Improvement is more obvious on bad recording CDs.

[maxwalrath]

Should the 6moons guys be trying the super and ultra- tweeters together? It seems silly to use the ultra and skip everything going up to 100k (but that's just how I'd do it when I drop $3k on tweeters. )


that's interesting oris...they are cheap enough to try too.

[maxwalrath]

I forgot why I didn't get the tweeters...isn't there a limit on the signal that is coming to the speakers? I thought any signal cut off way before the lower limit of the driver (once you factored in recording methods and all the gear that a signal goes through before it gets to the speaker).   I also wonder if a trumpet's sound at 1 gig sounds any different from a piano's. I dunno.

[CornellAlum]

Since we are on the subject...has anyone tried any less than 400 dollar tweaks that work well?


Silclear comes to mind, anything else to take a look at?  I like tweaks personally, as they don't cost as much as upgrading hardware and some of them really work!

[maxwalrath]

Since we are on the subject...has anyone tried any less than 400 dollar tweaks that work well?

nope. I would say vibration isolation and room treatments, but those are all part of the standard package these days and not considered tweaks anymore.

actually, I thought Caig pro gold opened the sound up a little for me, but I only used it once and not in the past year.

[djbnh]

Since we are on the subject...has anyone tried any less than 400 dollar tweaks that work well?


Silclear comes to mind, anything else to take a look at?  I like tweaks personally, as they don't cost as much as upgrading hardware and some of them really work!

Walker SST - works extremely well in my system, with my gear.

Vibrapods in combination with granite and marble for isolation - granite/marble was free, Vibrapods are something like $3-5 each.

Chris VenHaus PCs - various Flavors, lengths, costs.

Herbie's CD Grungebuster mat - about $15-20.

NOS tubes.

[maxwalrath]

djbnh, how much of your Walker stuff did you use to treat your whole system? Was it extreme or regular? I want to get a group buy together and don't know how many people could go in on a bottle.

[djbnh]

I used a very, very small amount of the regular Walker SST on my entire system: IECs, PCs, ICs, RCA, speaker cables, tube pins, etc. I also just changed over to mono amps and another set of PCs this week, had plenty to treat those, too. I also gave a nice gob of the SST to a friend on Head-Fi to try out. With all the above, I probably have about 85-90% of the original package left. A very little goes an extremely long way.

One note: please pay careful attention to Mr. Walker's directions.

Happy listening!

[jcoat007]

You might want t check this out:

http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue19/goldensound.htm

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