Anyone else use AI to dial in room setup?

Glady86

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Anyone else use AI to dial in room setup?
« on: Yesterday at 03:00 pm »
I searched best place for polyfuser panels with open baffle speakers. I ended up changing the whole arrangement, as recommended by the AI “machine” or whatever you call it. It was like having a conversation with a home audio consultant. Plus explaining technical information ie how sound travels from the speakers through the room. It asked questions about room dimensions, speaker and seating locations. You can ask questions at any time and give more information about your room. After It established what my room situation is and types of treatments I have it recommended the best use of them.

First it recommended a little more toe in. For reducing the effect from tv reflection it recommended instead of using the polyfusers on the front wall to move them to the first reflection point, put the QRD panels along side in the same plane as the tv. Since the tv is 15 inches from the wall it said it’s an issue you can help by placing my absorption panels behind the tv.

I need to listen a while to figure out what the changes did. One thing I noticed so far, is  the vocals are clearer and better focused.

SoCalWJS

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« Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 03:35 pm »
I played around with Gemini.
Since I am in a Tract Home, It was able to find the floor plan and I walked through where everything was. Told Gemini what acoustic treatments and panels I had along with where they were.
Agreed with me what the primary issue is (unbalanced room with an alcove/entertainment nook on one side the has hollow walls). No cheap solution.
Switched some panels. Might be a very slight improvement, but may be me trying to be positive.
Was fun.

Huskerbryce

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Re: Anyone else use AI to dial in room setup?
« Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 03:56 pm »
If I use AI to input my panels, speakers and room dimensions to inquire about tweaking the accoustics, it will likely say: You have reached the tweakable limit for a crazy stereo guy like yourself.  You need a bigger room.  Your spousal acceptance factor is at the lowest I have seen in a while.  Any more stuff in here will cause undue strain on her.  I would highly recommend you check yourself into an Audio rehab facility.  😂

Glady86

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« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 04:46 pm »
That’s funny! It just told me the sweet spot for the listener position is 9.5 feet from the speakers, taking in account of the speakers distance to front wall (7.5 feet) and length of room. It also recommended to put more panels down the long wall before I told it the rest of the layout, the bar at the back, staircase and furniture which It said helps break up the reflections. I can use my 2D QRD on the side walls before the bar, second choice for those is directly to the sides of speakers for less effect.

I’m using safari on apple iphone not sure which AI thing it uses.

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« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 05:44 pm »
Thanks, I hadn't gotten that far in AI application possibilities!

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« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 05:51 pm »
You can also take a picture of your room to show it how things a laid out, and ask it to do you a diagram of the best places to place your panels and it will do a picture of your room with the panels in place for you.

You still have to take everything it says with a pinch of salt, you still need to use your ears to judge the end results.

Glady86

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« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 06:22 pm »
Wonder what it would say if I told it the recommendations funked up my sound, maybe I will, but will it get mad at me and refuse any further assistance? The sound is more clear but I dont like sitting that close to the speakers, I might move back a little at a time and see what happens.

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« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 06:42 pm »
Interesting. I used ChatGPT, and it provided excellent instructions, probably the same ones I would have gotten by spending hours researching the topic. I won't do any of them (my system is in the family room). However, I may try moving my listening position closer as ChatGPT suggested. I already know it works, but as Glady86 mentioned, it seems a bit claustrophobic to sit too close to the speakers.

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« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 06:54 pm »
I told it the toe in aimed at my ears was little to bright, I aimed at my shoulders and got smoother response. AI said that’s fine and moving just a couple millimeters at a time to fine tune the sound. Slightly less focused enter image but better overall.

Glady86

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« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 07:22 pm »
It was wrong about the 2D QRD, I heard nothing different set at the back of the room, now along side the speakers centered 40 inches from floor (ear height) really did good stuff.

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« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 07:50 pm »



I found this method of speaker setup very easy and effective for speaker placement. Dial in the soundstage and frequency response you want after you judge the initial location satisfactory via the process.
https://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/viewpoint/0824/Dont_Just_Throw_Money_At_It.htm


Glady86

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« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 07:54 pm »
Well I was hearing some harshness in the highs, here all it was is I had the QRD panels right against the tv, I was suppose to leave a 3 inch or so gap. QRD Right against was reflecting high frequency right ofF the tv  It’s sounding better and so far I think it made a nice improvement. Overall better balanced tone and the walls seem to have disappeared better.

It’s definitely worth a try. I’ll admit it, The AI guy is smarter than me.

Glady86

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« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 07:56 pm »


I found this method of speaker setup very easy and effective for speaker placement. Dial in the soundstage and frequency response you want after you judge the initial location satisfactory via the process.
https://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/viewpoint/0824/Dont_Just_Throw_Money_At_It.htm

HA HA, no the AI guy helped me.

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« Reply #13 on: Today at 01:58 am »
Only use Claude or ChatGPT. Claude generates better artifacts, but ChatGPT is more conversational. Begin by having either write your prompt for you (odd, I know). When in doubt, have them check each other’s responses. You could ask either to write a program that accepts your room dimensions and any constraints (like where a door exists, height of your woofers, etc.) and have it show you the nodes in 3 dimensions.

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« Reply #14 on: Today at 05:02 am »
I used Chatgtp to dial in my subs. I took pictures of my plate amps and told it what speakers I have and it made suggestions. Everything seems to be a lot better. I recorded a song and had it analyzed and it suggested that I had a little too much toe in. I adjusted my speakers about a half inch and then they sounded better. So far so good.😊 I also have a much better understanding of the controls on my subs because I asked it what they do and how they affect the sound. Maybe next I should give it measurements and room dimensions. There is always room for improvement.