[Glady86]

I searched best place for polyfuser panels with open baffle speakers. I ended up changing the whole arrangement, as recommended by the AI “machine” or whatever you call it. It was like having a conversation with a home audio consultant. Plus explaining technical information ie how sound travels from the speakers through the room. It asked questions about room dimensions, speaker and seating locations. You can ask questions at any time and give more information about your room. After It established what my room situation is and types of treatments I have it recommended the best use of them.

First it recommended a little more toe in. For reducing the effect from tv reflection it recommended instead of using the polyfusers on the front wall to move them to the first reflection point, put the QRD panels along side in the same plane as the tv. Since the tv is 15 inches from the wall it said it’s an issue you can help by placing my absorption panels behind the tv.

I need to listen a while to figure out what the changes did. One thing I noticed so far, is  the vocals are clearer and better focused.

[SoCalWJS]

I played around with Gemini.
Since I am in a Tract Home, It was able to find the floor plan and I walked through where everything was. Told Gemini what acoustic treatments and panels I had along with where they were.
Agreed with me what the primary issue is (unbalanced room with an alcove/entertainment nook on one side the has hollow walls). No cheap solution.
Switched some panels. Might be a very slight improvement, but may be me trying to be positive.
Was fun.

[Huskerbryce]

If I use AI to input my panels, speakers and room dimensions to inquire about tweaking the accoustics, it will likely say: You have reached the tweakable limit for a crazy stereo guy like yourself.  You need a bigger room.  Your spousal acceptance factor is at the lowest I have seen in a while.  Any more stuff in here will cause undue strain on her.  I would highly recommend you check yourself into an Audio rehab facility.  😂

[Glady86]

That’s funny! It just told me the sweet spot for the listener position is 9.5 feet from the speakers, taking in account of the speakers distance to front wall (7.5 feet) and length of room. It also recommended to put more panels down the long wall before I told it the rest of the layout, the bar at the back, staircase and furniture which It said helps break up the reflections. I can use my 2D QRD on the side walls before the bar, second choice for those is directly to the sides of speakers for less effect.

I’m using safari on apple iphone not sure which AI thing it uses.

[Tone Depth]

Thanks, I hadn't gotten that far in AI application possibilities!

[toocool4]

You can also take a picture of your room to show it how things a laid out, and ask it to do you a diagram of the best places to place your panels and it will do a picture of your room with the panels in place for you.

You still have to take everything it says with a pinch of salt, you still need to use your ears to judge the end results.

[Glady86]

Wonder what it would say if I told it the recommendations funked up my sound, maybe I will, but will it get mad at me and refuse any further assistance? The sound is more clear but I dont like sitting that close to the speakers, I might move back a little at a time and see what happens.

[Early B.]

Interesting. I used ChatGPT, and it provided excellent instructions, probably the same ones I would have gotten by spending hours researching the topic. I won't do any of them (my system is in the family room). However, I may try moving my listening position closer as ChatGPT suggested. I already know it works, but as Glady86 mentioned, it seems a bit claustrophobic to sit too close to the speakers.

[Glady86]

I told it the toe in aimed at my ears was little to bright, I aimed at my shoulders and got smoother response. AI said that’s fine and moving just a couple millimeters at a time to fine tune the sound. Slightly less focused enter image but better overall.

[Glady86]

It was wrong about the 2D QRD, I heard nothing different set at the back of the room, now along side the speakers centered 40 inches from floor (ear height) really did good stuff.

[veloceleste]

I found this method of speaker setup very easy and effective for speaker placement. Dial in the soundstage and frequency response you want after you judge the initial location satisfactory via the process.
https://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/viewpoint/0824/Dont_Just_Throw_Money_At_It.htm

[Glady86]

Well I was hearing some harshness in the highs, here all it was is I had the QRD panels right against the tv, I was suppose to leave a 3 inch or so gap. QRD Right against was reflecting high frequency right ofF the tv  It’s sounding better and so far I think it made a nice improvement. Overall better balanced tone and the walls seem to have disappeared better.

It’s definitely worth a try. I’ll admit it, The AI guy is smarter than me.

[Glady86]

I found this method of speaker setup very easy and effective for speaker placement. Dial in the soundstage and frequency response you want after you judge the initial location satisfactory via the process.
https://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/viewpoint/0824/Dont_Just_Throw_Money_At_It.htm

HA HA, no the AI guy helped me.

[nrenter]

Only use Claude or ChatGPT. Claude generates better artifacts, but ChatGPT is more conversational. Begin by having either write your prompt for you (odd, I know). When in doubt, have them check each other’s responses. You could ask either to write a program that accepts your room dimensions and any constraints (like where a door exists, height of your woofers, etc.) and have it show you the nodes in 3 dimensions.

[NIGHTFALL1970]

I used Chatgtp to dial in my subs. I took pictures of my plate amps and told it what speakers I have and it made suggestions. Everything seems to be a lot better. I recorded a song and had it analyzed and it suggested that I had a little too much toe in. I adjusted my speakers about a half inch and then they sounded better. So far so good.😊 I also have a much better understanding of the controls on my subs because I asked it what they do and how they affect the sound. Maybe next I should give it measurements and room dimensions. There is always room for improvement.

[mkrawcz]

The problem with large language models is they tend to hallucinate if you don’t give it the correct context and details. I see it all the time especially when trying to get it to write code. It will write a beautiful Powershell script. Only problem is the script is utter nonsense with commands that don’t actually exist.
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[Danny Richie]

You have to know what you can ask AI for and what you can't ask it.

I have recently built a dedicated listening room. I laid a great framework that I could then tweak and adjust while watching measured responses. I could then learn what the room is asking for and where treatment is needed and what type of treatment to use.

If I had to do it again, I would take the same path.

Now if you measure a peak at 60Hz and want to try some 60Hz quarter wave traps, then you can ask AI how long the pipe needs to be to trap 60Hz and it will spit out an exact answer. You can also ask it to show you photos of different types of traps or construction information for something and it will dig through the whole Internet to find you the answers.

However, if you ask it, "why do I have a peak at 60 Hz", then there is no telling what it might tell you.

[NIGHTFALL1970]

[Glady86]

I think if you give it ( the AI Guy) the room dimensions to start and as you go add other details like open to another room, types of treatments already implemented, speaker type and information about measurements that might point to issues, it will suggest solid advice on what to try.

 I asked it why solid state amplifier that have similar specs can sound different, it didn’t suggest I’m crazy or do a blind test, but gave a few technical reasons why its possible.

[maty]

[Grok -> ChatGPT (persistent memory) -> Grok] Improved and Optimized List: Questions to Ask an AI to Act as an Expert Acoustic Consultant for Room EQI’ve combined your original list, ChatGPT’s excellent suggestions, and my own refinements. The result is more complete, prioritized, and realistic for a domestic high-fidelity setup (KEF Q100 + Magnat MA900, genres: jazz, classical, folk, vocals, and highly dynamic recordings).

Core philosophy: Position → Physical treatment → Integration → Minimal and selective EQ.

The goal is not a perfectly flat curve, but maximum naturalness, correct timbre, soundstage, and dynamics.

First in Spanish, after in English
https://x.com/i/grok/share/b648c0a1461249899705887acba77a21

1. Initial Diagnosis (No Measurements Needed)
2. Validation of REW Measurements (Quality Check)
3. Advanced Interpretation of REW Graphs
4. Speaker Positioning (Highest ROI Step)
5. Listening Position Optimization
6. Physical Acoustic Treatment (Real Priorities)
7. Deciding What NOT to EQ (The Art of Restraint)
8. Target Curve and Tonal Philosophy
9. Filter Generation (Only After the Above Steps)
10. Psychoacoustic and Subjective Validation


11. The Master Question (Most Powerful Single Prompt)
If you can only ask one question after uploading all REW measurements and room photos:

-> "Act as a professional acoustic consultant specializing in domestic high-fidelity. Analyze all the information (room dimensions, room description, KEF Q100 + Magnat MA900 equipment, complete REW measurements, and music preferences: jazz, classical, folk, vocals). Propose an optimized plan in four prioritized phases: 1) speaker and listening position optimization, 2) physical acoustic treatments (highest ROI), 3) subwoofer integration if applicable, 4) minimal EQ. For each recommendation, indicate the expected audible impact, risks, and justification. Avoid any corrections with low benefit/risk ratio. Prioritize naturalness, timbre, and spatiality over a perfectly flat response."

Final Tips to Get the Most Out of the AI
* Always upload: room photos, all REW graphs, and clearly state your priorities (soundstage > timbre > impact).
* Iterate: reposition → measure → treat → measure → light EQ → measure & listen.
* Key reminder: In small rooms, moving speakers 20 cm often beats dozens of PEQ filters.

This list is more robust, sequential, and oriented toward real high-fidelity results.  Would you like me to turn this into a single master prompt, or shall we analyze your actual room and measurements if you share them?


- Greetings from Tarragona (Spain/EU) -

Second system: Coaxial KEF Q100 modified, at 1.5m, Magnat MA 900 with PSvane Art Series TII 12AT7-S, DIY PC W11 with hard and soft optimized to play multimedia witn JRiver MC 64 bits (Kernel Streming, PEQ, Convolution -two filters, optimized first with rePhase), DC Blockers, DIY cables RF/EMI Schaffner FN9244B filters + IEC C13 Schurter connectors, Würth 300 kHz ferrites 742727 33 and...

The original JJ ECC81 tubes are a major bottleneck in the hybrid amplifier; they absolutely must be replaced.

Thinking about changing the excellent PSvane Art Series with:
Mullard CV4024 made in the UK 1965 for the RAF single support O-getter with old shield logo of Mullard Mitcham factory matched pair 10,0/10,0 mA and 5000+ uMhos so NOS testing
https://www.tubesandrecords.com/pre-amplifier-tubes/ecc81-12at7-cv4024-1/

I have a long and very interested thread about Room EQ at X: https://x.com/nauscopio/status/1746597008989733086