Into Fancy Cables?

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Re: Into Fancy Cables?
« Reply #20 on: 6 Apr 2026, 04:05 pm »
Equatorial Audio just published a deep dive on how the Nyquist-Shannon theorem breaks down at non-equatorial latitudes — turns out your DAC's reconstruction filter may have 0.003 dB of hemispheric bias baked in. https://equatorialaudio.com/blog/nyquist-shannon/

Well, shit.  Time to sell the house.  :wink:

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Re: Into Fancy Cables?
« Reply #21 on: 6 Apr 2026, 10:48 pm »
My experience mirrors Wayne's (WGH). It takes me time to recognize and appreciate the differences between many components, including many amps and cables. But after I've had something in my system for a while, I tend to develop strong preferences, usually resulting in either long-term satisfaction or a gnawing need to change something. And, also like Wayne, once I've locked-in on a component's characteristics, I can always hear the differences between it and something else.
I do think that many professional reviewers are more skilled than I am at quickly identifying a component's impact, and I am not as cynical as many who quickly dismiss published reviews just because they themselves are not able to parse out the same differences as the reviewer.

Early B.

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« Reply #22 on: 6 Apr 2026, 11:09 pm »
My experience mirrors Wayne's (WGH). It takes me time to recognize and appreciate the differences between many components, including many amps and cables. But after I've had something in my system for a while, I tend to develop strong preferences, usually resulting in either long-term satisfaction or a gnawing need to change something.

My approach is the opposite. I expect an immediate improvement in whatever I add, and if I don't hear it, I try something else. This process has served me well for 25 years. I realize there are break-in periods, but I'm not gonna wait 300 hours to determine if I like it. It either sounds better or not, and it doesn't take much time to figure out.

It's interesting that we all have our ways of evaluating things. It's probably tied to our personalities.

I.Greyhound Fan

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« Reply #23 on: 7 Apr 2026, 12:46 am »
I can hear differences usually in the firs 15 seconds sometimes sooner believe it or not.  My son is amazed that I can. When I have my audio friends over I hear the same changes before they do.  It is my super power, if there are changes to be heard for good or bad.  I always go into it expecting to hear no change.

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Re: Into Fancy Cables?
« Reply #24 on: 7 Apr 2026, 05:23 pm »
Greetings! New to this forum...I'm Jim from Central Florida

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« Reply #25 on: 8 Apr 2026, 04:02 am »
Hi Jim from Central Florida, welcome to the forum..

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« Reply #26 on: 8 Apr 2026, 10:55 am »
Welcome Jim

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Re: Into Fancy Cables?
« Reply #27 on: 8 Apr 2026, 04:31 pm »
My ultimate criteria for cable differences is simply - be familiar with the sound of your system and listen to the differences at a very loud volume - when the distortions come into play.
These immediate A/B tests with unfamiliar systems at moderate volumes tells you nothing.

thirdeye

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« Reply #28 on: 9 Apr 2026, 12:51 am »
I recently have gone thru a modern itteration of cable jumping myself, mainly with some interesting auditions of power cables and speaker cables.

Yes I have compared many over the years up to $12,000 a pair Speaker cables to be honest. Those were a dealer loan.

What I learned is it can be very system dependent.

I also learned definitely the most effective cable in the system is in fact Speaker cables. They can and will change the total outcome of any system or synergy. Jumping between one lamp cord to another may or may not, including just different AWG used. But some geometries and materials can in fact be heard night and day differences with some speakers for sure.

I originally believed interconnects were the most important because obviously they are the critical signal cable, but this proved not so true.

1 - RCA you need to make sure they are quiet as by nature they are single ended geometry, and can pick up noise, also generally "Silver Tinned" may or may not be a good idea over just pure copper. But RCA cables can in some cases make or break, but any properly designed with decent copper will work great if the gear is good in the first place. Twin litz, or Coax, but I will say COAX seems to be more consitent and definitely by nature will stay quiet due to naturally shielded vs. some of these home brews people try to create with 2 wires, and twisting, or selling for hundreds to thousands of dollars, stick with PRO designed COAX cables for RCA period they will always be correct vs. trying to get fancy with geometry and materials.

2 - XLR is a whole game. The truth is most XLR will do nothing in most systems I have tried. I for a long time was a believer in balanced "True Balanced" was the best audiophile way, and cables should matter.
It is virtually impossible in most applications to hear a major advantage of any terminated XLR cable unless maybe you are running ultra long cables somewhere. But for standard 3 ft to 10 ft lengths stick with any good PRO brand again that is used for any Microphone or mixing console in the PRO industry they reject noise, they have good materials and don't cost a fortune. I have had some XLR as much as $3000.00 a pair and NOPE never again, for well under $300 you can do well, and even for $30 you can build some really good XLR using whatever connector and shielded twin coax wire you want with good results and low capacitance etc...

Finally Power cables. Yep at one point I believed this was a major stepping stone to solving the Audio Nirvana as well. They "Can" have an effect, but until I figured out as long as you use something as good as 5n Copper and skip all the hype with decent IEC and AC plug they are very low on the priority list because point of diminishing returns quickly kicks in spending $500 to $5000 for used power cables, and I have had many.

My last set were 7 AWG with hybrid silver copper design from a pretty major manufacturer. They were great with top of the line Furutech connectors, and 3 separate poles braided geometry and all the fairy dust in them.

Nothing wrong with them, they sounded dam good, but you know what 7 AWG is generally complete overkill for most components off your standard 15 amp or 20 amp circuit, and truth is I found some much simpler 10 AWG good clean copper shielded 3 pole cabling worked just as well, and maybe sounded a bit more organic in this specific setup.

So in the end is it all just Voodoo we are trying to sell to ourselves?

No I do believe good cables [the right cables] can make a system perform, and sound better for sure, but finding that perfect combination is more about really understanding why it should work, or not, and picking good enough materials from whoever makes it to get there in the most realistic cost, and logical way possible. That is the challenge. Not because it has a big namebadge and price on it.

Again no question some "Super cables" have an effect, but in the end after most people live with them they end up on the used market for a reason. You can easily either build, or seek out the good cables, and pay as little as $100 with good connectors for any of these applications, you just have to get on the right track with experience to do it.

Good Luck


brooklyn

Re: Into Fancy Cables?
« Reply #29 on: 9 Apr 2026, 01:37 am »
Great post and very well written.. I'm mostly in agreement with you but I still feel RCA Interconnects make a bigger difference. That said, I'm also using a decent pair of speaker cables not wanting my system to be imbalanced in any way.. 

thirdeye

Re: Into Fancy Cables?
« Reply #30 on: 9 Apr 2026, 01:40 am »
"RCA Interconnects make a bigger difference"

They can as stated, and far more than most XLR comparisons.

But Speaker cables can totally change the system in some cases for better or worse. All good RCA - Single ended built right will perform vs. other cable variables was the point, but that was not to say they are not still critical.

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« Reply #31 on: 9 Apr 2026, 06:57 am »
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Re: Into Fancy Cables?
« Reply #32 on: 9 Apr 2026, 03:55 pm »
I recently have gone thru a modern itteration of cable jumping myself, mainly with some interesting auditions of power cables and speaker cables.

Yes I have compared many over the years up to $12,000 a pair Speaker cables to be honest. Those were a dealer loan.

What I learned is it can be very system dependent.

Good Luck

Exactly, great post.  I have been saying the same thing for years.  Cables are system dependent. USB cables as well, they are dac dependent mostly but the rest of the system needs to be resolving.  We did a usb cable shootout a few years back and the 5 cables used sounded completely different with my Luxman DAC.  It was not subtle either.  There was one cable, a $600 Litespeed cable that was unbearably bright with the Luxman but it had extreme detail.  It my friends sytem it was dead neutral and sounded great with his T+A DAC8.  And my Luxman is a very warm sounding dac.

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Re: Into Fancy Cables?
« Reply #33 on: 9 Apr 2026, 05:38 pm »
Cables are system dependent.

Has anyone cracked the code on how or why or which cables are most appropriate based on a set of criteria that define system dependency? Otherwise, to say cables are "system dependent" really translates into: "Try a bunch of cables and see what you like, and then you'll conclude like everyone else that 'it depends'." Depends on what?

   

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Re: Into Fancy Cables?
« Reply #34 on: 10 Apr 2026, 02:00 am »
Has anyone cracked the code on how or why or which cables are most appropriate based on a set of criteria that define system dependency? Otherwise, to say cables are "system dependent" really translates into: "Try a bunch of cables and see what you like, and then you'll conclude like everyone else that 'it depends'." Depends on what?

   

I have had various cables and you never know when one is going to sound different.  I have 2 of my own systems at home and my sons who is living with us to save money to buy a home.  In my reference system and my son's, cables can sound different.  Blue Jeans cables are bright to neutral.  Belden 8402 are slightly warmer, darker and smoother.  Audioquest Columbia 72v DBS xlrs have nice clarity and limit sibilants but they have weak bass for some reason.  I have a pair of Cardas Parsec XLRs and they are neutral.  The duelund 16g RCA and XLR's have a warmer tone and rich midrange.  Same for their 12g speaker cables but less so. 

In my bedroom system which is a Marantz receiver from the early 2000's, a Topping E50 DAC and Monitor Audio RX1 Silver bookshelfs I cannot tell the differences that cables make.

You can easily hear the differences in my sons and my systems. Why, who knows.  Certainly the amount of resolution and detail are better in our systems than my bedroom system which is very smooth and easy to listen to.

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Re: Into Fancy Cables?
« Reply #35 on: 10 Apr 2026, 03:00 am »
Make sure to view my April 1st post about equatorial audio cables.  :)  best bargain on the planet. 

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Re: Into Fancy Cables?
« Reply #36 on: 11 Apr 2026, 11:45 pm »
Greetings! New to this forum...I'm Jim from Central Florida

Welcome Jim. I’m a central Florida dealer so if you want to audition some Bryston gear including the Mini T-10, BP-19, 4B3,7B3, and BD-325, feel free to reach out. I am also waiting for the new Bi-101 so when that is available I will have that for audition as well.  :D

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Re: Into Fancy Cables?
« Reply #37 on: 15 Apr 2026, 03:04 pm »
If your system can resolve the subtle differences, and your hearing is trained to detect those subtleties, then and only then, is it worth experimenting.

MOST home audio systems are not that resolving. Period.

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Re: Into Fancy Cables?
« Reply #38 on: 16 Apr 2026, 12:40 pm »
If your system can resolve the subtle differences, and your hearing is trained to detect those subtleties, then and only then, is it worth experimenting.

MOST home audio systems are not that resolving. Period.