[Highendfool]

Originally I asked in 2022 about the replacement for MM.
What’s going on? Nothing but dropouts and freezes lately and I haven’t changed anything!

Also, the database doesn’t sort anymore.

[Phil A]

https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=193280.0

[Highendfool]

https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=193280.0

Nothing helpful in your link
And no reply from Bryston either!

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Are you using your own local music, Tidal, Qobuz, and/or Roon?

[Highendfool]

Are you using your own local music, Tidal, Qobuz, and/or Roon?

My own on a solid state hd

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My own on a solid state hd

I have a BDP-1 with the latest firmware, and I was having crashes and issues as well. I was also getting messages for full scratch disk even though I wasn't using MPD/local library whatsoever, but only Roon. So it would stay online for a few hours and then become unresponsive and unable to detect through Roon or browser. I did a reset through the front panel and that seemed to fix the problem. Scratch disk came back down to 1% (now 3% since). Roon runs well enough most of the time. I only had one crash but that was due to a playlist with 900 tracks on Roon, so not sure if Bryston BDP sees the full size of that playlist as well, but that was the one time.

As far as local music goes, I did try it with Tidal for the first time locally in Manic Moose (as opposed to Tidal via Roon Ready), and that was a far worse experience. If your playlist has a few tracks, it will run okay. If you do any playlists and try to load 50+ more, high chances of stalling.

I'd try to reset as many options as you can find in the menu and then rebuild again from the scratch. It should hopefully make things more stable. Back when the BDP-1 was new and with the accompanied firmware of that time, I could stay online for weeks/months with my 40k tracks on a USB HDD. The later firmware updates brought more features but also some issues.

[Highendfool]

thanks for the input 👍

[BeeJay]

Hi High.  You donˋt mention if you are using a Scratch Drive and I'm attaching the following regardless.  This is a bit of a contentious issue (right Gbaby?) but I for one support the use of the drive.  If you have a spare 16GB thumb drive handy, plug it in to a 2.0 port and give it a try as I donˋt believe it will do any harm if it doesn't work for you .

https://share.google/aimode/sfNBuGxPl6040dnzG

Cheers, Barry

[Highendfool]

Hi High.  You donˋt mention if you are using a Scratch Drive and I'm attaching the following regardless.  This is a bit of a contentious issue (right Gbaby?) but I for one support the use of the drive.  If you have a spare 16GB thumb drive handy, plug it in to a 2.0 port and give it a try as I donˋt believe it will do any harm if it doesn't work for you .

https://share.google/aimode/sfNBuGxPl6040dnzG

Cheers, Barry

Hi Barry!
My unit doesn’t use a scratch drive. BDP-3.14
I’ve had discussions with Chris at Bryston support in the past, about this and it’s not the problem.

[BeeJay]

Thanks, good to know.
Barry

[gbaby]

... Incidentally, for all those interested, I spoke with Mike Pickett from Bryston and he mentioned that the OS3 for the BDP-3 is still being worked on although I and many others figured it was being abandoned because it is not being made any longer.

[Highendfool]

... Incidentally, for all those interested, I spoke with Mike Pickett from Bryston and he mentioned that the OS3 for the BDP-3 is still being worked on although I and many others figured it was being abandoned because it is not being made any longer.

The last official word I’ve heard is that it is being worked on, as well.
I’m not sure I believe that anymore.
Would be great if someone at Bryston would clarify!

[jobiwon]

Lord Give it up already on the Moose.  We are all going to be sport'n drool cups before Bryston ever comes out with anything on this.  Just take your old BDP and turn it into an endpoint for ROON , Ardivarna or some other  technology of choice.     My little Pi makes a great ROON endpoint.

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I have to say that since making the last post above, I tried MPD again for Tidal playback directly from there. I opened a playlist and added 1 song manually. It wouldn't play and the interface got stuck. So I restarted BDP-1 and tried it again, just 1 song and nothing. No idea why. Tried 2 more power cycles and it wouldn't play and then the interface would lag and get stuck. So did a final restart and this time put it back into Roon Ready mode and it's been perfect since.

Tidal on BDP-1 is unfortunately limited to just 16 bit. I think Qobuz has higher support natively on BDP-1 and it is something that's been on my mind to try, but with how Tidal works (or not so much) functionally on BDP-1, I might push that idea for a later date. Will keep enjoying through Roon.

As to OP's specific case, I didn't try my local library yet with the BDP-1 after the 'reset.' I'm not sure how that would fare vs. the Tidal experience I had.

[Highendfool]

Lord Give it up already on the Moose.  We are all going to be sport'n drool cups before Bryston ever comes out with anything on this.  Just take your old BDP and turn it into an endpoint for ROON , Ardivarna or some other  technology of choice.     My little Pi makes a great ROON endpoint.

My BDP-3.14 isn’t old my friend, and Bryston doesn’t abandon their customers, so I’m not giving up on them. Drool cups? Really? 😝😂🤣👍

[jobiwon]

My BDP-3.14 isn’t old my friend, and Bryston doesn’t abandon their customers, so I’m not giving up on them. Drool cups? Really? 😝😂🤣👍

Granted that hardware aint old and I wish I had one.  But MM, is a relic.

[christo]

Lord Give it up already on the Moose.  We are all going to be sport'n drool cups before Bryston ever comes out with anything on this.  Just take your old BDP and turn it into an endpoint for ROON , Ardivarna or some other  technology of choice.     My little Pi makes a great ROON endpoint.

So if I turn my BDA-3.14 into a Roon endpoint will that be more stable than the Manic Moose interface? Or will I still need to power cycle the unit from time to time?

I do understand though that this is an issue with the Volumio OEM Pi boards used for the Bryston streamer. I have heard from Volumio streamer users that power cycling their streamers is also something they need to do from time to time.

If the new Bryston streamers use newer, more stable boards, would we be able to take our BDA-3.14s etc to a service tech to get the old boards replaced with the newer? (For a fee, of course. I'm more than happy to pay for a newer, better board.)

I don't want anything fancy. I actually like the utilitarian look of Manic Moose. It does the job just fine.

I just hate having the interface decay over time and having to power cycle it to restore it to full functionality.

One thing I'd like to add to a wishlist for a new version is a more intuitive internet radio function, eg. just plugging in a link to an online stream and adding it to a list of favourites.

[jobiwon]

So if I turn my BDA-3.14 into a Roon endpoint will that be more stable than the Manic Moose interface? Or will I still need to power cycle the unit from time to time?

In my opinion, in my environment, Having my little BDP-Pi as an endpoint is way more stable.  Pi runs for months without having to be power cycled.

BUT, and this a big one.  ROON sound quality is highly sensitive to hardware and config.   In my prediction Running a ROON core off of a pc aint gonna come close to what a 3.14 us going to do.  I had to rehost the ROON core to a SGC Sonic Transport and upgrade my network cable to get 99% of what the little BDP could do.    But the ROON interface is Light Years ahead of what the MM is.     What I used to do was primary listen to ROON.  If I came across something that I really wanted to extract every tiny detail out of I would flip over to MM/MPD to wring out the last bits.  But now sadly MM will not even login to Qobuz anymore.   Another thing about the MM is that it had a really good sounding interface app to RadioParadise.  Sounds great!  but its totally flaky and will get stuck and repeat tracks. sigh. So I listen to Radio Paradise now via ROON which still sounds really good as RP streams at Redbook.   If your just listening to local file storage then ROON if probably overkill.

[jobiwon]

[quote author=christo link=topic=193746.msg2035887#msg2035887 date=1774915992

One thing I'd like to add to a wishlist for a new version is a more intuitive internet radio function, eg. just plugging in a link to an online stream and adding it to a list of favourites.
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This basically what you do with ROON.  Add a URL and it pops into a window that looks like this.

[Highendfool]

Wondering if James would chime in on the OS3 status!