Toe in and line source designs

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tomlinmgt

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Toe in and line source designs
« on: 6 May 2025, 04:10 pm »
Do line source designs tend to favor a particular amount of toe in or is that going to be purely dependent on room interaction, speaker to speaker to listening spot distance relationship, driver type and dispersion characteristics, etc?  With my LS6's, I can't say I'm hearing any significant changes as I move from straight ahead/zero toe in to axis firing at my shoulders.  Maybe the image focus tightens up a bit as toe in increases, but not to any noteworthy degree. I've only experimented a little, so I'm far from drawing any of my own conclusions...just curious what others have experienced.

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Re: Toe in and line source designs
« Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 09:18 pm »
The LS-6 has a pretty low crossover point. So moving left or right really doesn't change the response too much.

It all depends on your room acoustics as to whether or not the toe in (or out) changes the size of the sound stage for you or changes image focus.

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Re: Toe in and line source designs
« Reply #2 on: Today at 01:12 am »
I have the LS-9's

I would also say the size of the room matters as well. My room is pretty big and speakers are far apart probably in comparison to most. So for my room, a little toe in helps with center image focus and also sound stage depth.

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Re: Toe in and line source designs
« Reply #3 on: Today at 12:36 pm »
The LS-6 has a pretty low crossover point. So moving left or right really doesn't change the response too much.

It all depends on your room acoustics as to whether or not the toe in (or out) changes the size of the sound stage for you or changes image focus.

I'm listening in a well treated, dedicated 19x26 listening space with a blend of diffusion and absorption...so no sonic artifacts or distortion from the room. Speakers are set up with about nine feet center to center and listening spot is about eleven feet away and six feet from front wall, listening spot about eleven feet from back wall. I spent some time last night listening to my system and paying close attention to any changes as I tried different toe in positions, and what you described seems to be the case...it's either a slightly more vast sound stage with images a little less defined when firing straight agead or a slightly constricted sound stage with high image resolution when aimed just beyond my shoulders...so I settler for something in between the two. I was expecting the highs to become a bit more prevailant as I got closer to being on axis, but that never really happened.  So I guess the Neo 8's must be pretty consistent off axis .

tomlinmgt

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Re: Toe in and line source designs
« Reply #4 on: Today at 12:38 pm »
I have the LS-9's

I would also say the size of the room matters as well. My room is pretty big and speakers are far apart probably in comparison to most. So for my room, a little toe in helps with center image focus and also sound stage depth.

How far apart?

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Re: Toe in and line source designs
« Reply #5 on: Today at 12:49 pm »
12 ft