One more GR Neo3 - NX-3S Bravo Center Build

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rinzzlr

One more GR Neo3 - NX-3S Bravo Center Build
« on: 10 Feb 2025, 06:18 am »
Hi all.  I wanted to share my NX-3S Bravo Center build (Editing post, as I just learned the official name today).  This will compliment the NX-Otica's and NX-Studio's I finished in Nov 2023.  I really thought I was going to get the NX-Otica Center, but my space is too small, and I sit 7 feet away from the mains which would be <6 feet away from the Center.  Im grateful that Danny and Hobb's made this NX-Bravo Center available as I've been running a phantom center which is normally quite good, but has it's drawbacks.  Interestingly also found the some native DTS 5.1 tracks simply do not know what to do with a 4.2 setup with a phantom center on my Anthem AVR, it ends up defaulting to Stereo. I end up having to upmix it for the audio to be relatively accurate on those mixes so the center channel will be very much welcomed in my Home Theater.   On to the progress.  The painter has had them since Jan 22nd and I'm hoping they can wrap it up this week so I can finish the build.  Shout out to Frederick, who I again commissioned to complete the crossover, I appreciate his attention to detail and craftsmanship.









A note about my flatpack and waveguide.  The flatpack center hole was a bit too small to fit the waveguide. I ended up sanding about 1mm or so around the waveguide.  I sanded as much as I could to preserve the integrity of the screw holes.  Keeping in mind I would be painting it and wanted the waveguide to fit after prime and paint I took as much off as I felt was needed to allow it to accept paint, and remain flush.  You can see the before and after below.










I used Bondo glazing and spot putty to fill in the seams.





Sanded the 3D print lines down with some elbow grease and 180 grit sandpaper







Also tested the Bondo on the plastic to ensure it wouldn't have a negative reaction - there was no issue.


Filled in the final grooves in the 3D printed waveguide with the Bondo - I just smeared it on with a paper towel - no need to sand after as it was applied ultra thin. Actually looked a bit like wood after this and was ready from primer.





I purchased a router for this and gave it a go (first time routing anything). I wanted it to match my NX-Otica's which are straight on top and rounded on the sides, so I just routed the L/R sides 1/2" on the Bravo Center





I used Gel Superglue initially to glue the GR Neo3 backcup to the tweeter, then after that dried I followed it up with a bead of silicone.





I went with the upgraded Sonicaps in the tweeter circuit, then went a bit further and got Sonicaps for the woofer as well.  Also went with all foil, anything I couldn't get from GR, I got elsewhere. Bypassing the Sonicaps with Duelund Cast PIO Coppers which is what I have in my Otica's and Studio's as well. I wanted all to match. Stuck with the GR-Research resistors as I found them to sound great in my NX-Oticas.
 


Kudo's to Frederick for the artistry






Last photo's I have for now from the painter on progress - first coat of primer and sand.







That's all for now, thanks for checking it out, very excited for this one.

Update: Painting pics










Update:  Final build results
It's alive!.  Final assembly.  I was able to listen for about 5 hours.  Listening mono just burning the caps and drivers.  My initial observations is that the off axis response is fantastic and covers the entire area I potentially will have guests perfectly.  Thats a huge win for me as that was one of the primary reasons for building it vs. keep with the phantom center.  Another observation is that over the 5 hours it's been playing I've noticed the dynamics have increased a lot and it now sounds twice as large as it did 5 hours ago.  I suspect that trend will continue as the parts burn in more.  Love how it turned out and matches the family. I may try removing some of the no-rez and stuffing to see how that impacts the sound, right now it sounds good, but I'm curious how that nay impact the sound.





















« Last Edit: 20 Feb 2025, 04:32 am by rinzzlr »

BrandonB

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Re: One more GR Neo3 - NX-3S Bravo Center Build
« Reply #1 on: 10 Feb 2025, 01:33 pm »
Hi all.  I wanted to share my NX-3S Bravo Center build (Editing post, as I just learned the official name today).  This will compliment the NX-Otica's and NX-Studio's I finished in Nov 2023.  I really thought I was going to get the NX-Otica Center, but my space is too small, and I sit 7 feet away from the mains which would be <6 feet away from the Center.  Im grateful that Danny and Hobb's made this NX-Bravo Center available as I've been running a phantom center which is normally quite good, but has it's drawbacks.  Interestingly also found the some native DTS 5.1 tracks simply do not know what to do with a 4.2 setup with a phantom center on my Anthem AVR, it ends up defaulting to Stereo. I end up having to upmix it for the audio to be relatively accurate on those mixes so the center channel will be very much welcomed in my Home Theater.   On to the progress.  The painter has had them since Jan 22nd and I'm hoping they can wrap it up this week so I can finish the build.  Shout out to Frederick, who I again commissioned to complete the crossover, I appreciate his attention to detail and craftsmanship.

What is the model of your anthem?  What did you primer your speakers with?

rinzzlr

Re: One more GR Neo3 - NX-3S Bravo Center Build
« Reply #2 on: 10 Feb 2025, 03:09 pm »
What is the model of your anthem?  What did you primer your speakers with?
Anthem MRX 1140 8K.  The painter runs an autobody shop, he used Roberlo Multyfiller Express (ME1).

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Re: One more GR Neo3 - NX-3S Bravo Center Build
« Reply #3 on: 13 Feb 2025, 05:16 pm »
Dude,

Once again you are killin' the build, rasin' the bar for the rest of us!

Rikard Ekval

Re: One more GR Neo3 - NX-3S Bravo Center Build
« Reply #4 on: 15 Feb 2025, 10:36 am »
Looks great! Will be nice to see the finished center.
You showed the crossover and the layout and the great craftsmanship.
Two boards for each driver section? Woofers/tweeter.


BUT I did got surprised by that there are so many parts.
Is this Danny’s design?


Living in Europe, I do fear the trade war that will come…
Can’t buy the kit now, have to wait until our new house is finished in beginning of 2026

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Re: One more GR Neo3 - NX-3S Bravo Center Build
« Reply #5 on: 15 Feb 2025, 09:43 pm »
Looks great! Will be nice to see the finished center.

Living in Europe, I do fear the trade war that will come…
Can’t buy the kit now, have to wait until our new house is finished in beginning of 2026
I don't think there will be a trade war between the US and Europe.  This week Trump said he is going to match Tariffs with other countries.  This could end up being a good thing depending on how Europe accepts it.  He did say that also includes VAT. 

rinzzlr

Re: One more GR Neo3 - NX-3S Bravo Center Build
« Reply #6 on: 16 Feb 2025, 08:16 am »
Dude,

Once again you are killin' the build, rasin' the bar for the rest of us!
Thanks, I’m cheating throwing more money at it than necessary but I do look at and listen to them daily so I’ve pretty much justified the indulgence in adding the final polish to the crossovers and aesthetics. One day I would like to work more towards really perfecting a natural wood finish like some of the gorgeous work I’ve seen posted here.

Looks great! Will be nice to see the finished center.
You showed the crossover and the layout and the great craftsmanship.
Two boards for each driver section? Woofers/tweeter.


BUT I did got surprised by that there are so many parts.
Is this Danny’s design?


Living in Europe, I do fear the trade war that will come…
Can’t buy the kit now, have to wait until our new house is finished in beginning of 2026
Thanks. It’s one board for the woofers and one for the tweeters yeah. I replaced the woofer single value cap with three equal lesser value sonicaps because I couldn’t find an exact  singular value Sonicap. Actually got them from Danny with that in mind and he matched me up nicely with the right values. Yes they are GR-Research designed circuits.

Living in Europe I think I’d have bigger worries than a trade war with the US. I wouldn’t be too worried about that.

rinzzlr

Re: One more GR Neo3 - NX-3S Bravo Center Build
« Reply #7 on: 16 Feb 2025, 08:25 am »
Mini update on the paint progress. It’s been painted and it’s still curing. I should have it together some time this week. Once again the painter nailed it.










AlexH

Re: One more GR Neo3 - NX-3S Bravo Center Build
« Reply #8 on: 16 Feb 2025, 01:26 pm »
I like it! :thumb:

Danny Richie

Re: One more GR Neo3 - NX-3S Bravo Center Build
« Reply #9 on: 19 Feb 2025, 12:43 am »
Nice!   :thumb:

rinzzlr

Re: One more GR Neo3 - NX-3S Bravo Center Build
« Reply #10 on: 20 Feb 2025, 04:31 am »
It's alive!.  Final assembly.  I was able to listen for about 5 hours.  Listening mono just burning the caps and drivers.  My initial observations is that the off axis response is fantastic and covers the entire area I potentially will have guests perfectly.  Thats a huge win for me as that was one of the primary reasons for building it vs. keep with the phantom center.  Another observation is that over the 5 hours it's been playing I've noticed the dynamics have increased a lot and it now sounds twice as large as it did 5 hours ago.  I suspect that trend will continue as the parts burn in more.  Love how it turned out and matches the family. I may try removing some of the no-rez and stuffing to see how that impacts the sound, right now it sounds good, but I'm curious how that may impact the sound.




















 
« Last Edit: 20 Feb 2025, 04:04 pm by rinzzlr »

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« Reply #11 on: 20 Feb 2025, 08:25 am »
You win!

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« Reply #12 on: 20 Feb 2025, 11:25 am »
AWESOME!

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« Reply #13 on: 20 Feb 2025, 12:33 pm »
 :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

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« Reply #14 on: 20 Feb 2025, 05:41 pm »
Lovely setup.
 Is there any concern about woofers not landing flat on surface of baffle? It appears that the waveguide is proud of the surface which could result in woofer gasket not seating properly. This is a sealed design, correct?

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« Reply #15 on: 20 Feb 2025, 05:57 pm »
Lovely setup.
 Is there any concern about woofers not landing flat on surface of baffle? It appears that the waveguide is proud of the surface which could result in woofer gasket not seating properly. This is a sealed design, correct?

The gaskets are designed with a smooth curve so suftace reflections are eliminated.

rinzzlr

Re: One more GR Neo3 - NX-3S Bravo Center Build
« Reply #16 on: 20 Feb 2025, 06:07 pm »
The gaskets are designed with a smooth curve so suftace reflections are eliminated.
I understand what you are saying. I did see the the waveguide did not sit as flush as it did when it was unpainted.  I would say its less than 1mm heightened at the highest.  This also was a concern when I was assembling.  Based on where the gasket is located (closest to the cone) on the drivers I think it would seal but.. I may still yet remove the waveguide and sand down the lip the waveguide screws into in just to clear my conscience on it.  Good observation.

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« Reply #17 on: 20 Feb 2025, 07:52 pm »
I understand what you are saying. I did see the the waveguide did not sit as flush as it did when it was unpainted.  I would say its less than 1mm heightened at the highest.  This also was a concern when I was assembling.  Based on where the gasket is located (closest to the cone) on the drivers I think it would seal but.. I may still yet remove the waveguide and sand down the lip the waveguide screws into in just to clear my conscience on it.  Good observation.

Perhaps a thinner waveguide gasket could be printed or just use 1/16" foam tape. I like this stuff and if you're in CONUS, I could send you some to save buying a roll.

https://www.mcmaster.com/8694K111/

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« Reply #18 on: 20 Feb 2025, 07:56 pm »
The gaskets are designed with a smooth curve so suftace reflections are eliminated.

Tyson, the gasket fits is a recess on the back side of woofer frame and won't seal much of a gap. I think we're talking about two different things.

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Re: One more GR Neo3 - NX-3S Bravo Center Build
« Reply #19 on: 22 Feb 2025, 06:19 pm »
Hi guys!  I was admiring these beautiful speakers and had a thought… Has GR looked into switching to printed wave guides for all the NX series speakers?  I’m not sure if a single wave guide would work for both the open baffle and closed cup scenarios, but it might simplify the flat pack baffles.