Best Subwoofer cabinet for 12” HSU driver

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Jstower

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Best Subwoofer cabinet for 12” HSU driver
« on: 19 Nov 2024, 02:45 am »
So I picked up 8 12” HSU drivers. I would like to build some subwoofer cabinets and would like some design advice.
   So Sealed cabinet with one or two drivers? Passive radiator cabinet with one or two drivers? Thanks Jim
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« Last Edit: 20 Nov 2024, 12:01 am by Jstower »

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« Reply #1 on: 20 Nov 2024, 10:26 pm »
A 2 cubic foot sealed box should get you to 40 Hz -3 dBs and low 30s -6 dBs.

Are they new?
Interested in selling a pair?

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« Reply #2 on: 21 Nov 2024, 01:40 am »
Unfortunately the are 4 ohms.

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« Reply #3 on: 21 Nov 2024, 01:54 am »
Unfortunately the are 4 ohms.

Why?
It's a subwoofer, not a wideband driver for a tube amplifier.  :duh:

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« Reply #4 on: 21 Nov 2024, 02:55 am »
Why?
It's a subwoofer, not a wideband driver for a tube amplifier.  :duh:
It will need a more expensive and robust amp  :lol:

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Re: Best Subwoofer cabinet for 12” HSU driver
« Reply #5 on: 21 Nov 2024, 03:03 am »
A 2 cubic foot sealed box should get you to 40 Hz -3 dBs and low 30s -6 dBs.

Are they new?
Interested in selling a pair?
At this time I’m not interested in selling, but if I do I will let you know.

The guy I got them from,  picked them up at Parts Express. They where not in boxes, but only two of them had wire soldered to them, and probably mounted. The others seem new but dusty.

I’m going to drive them with a Crown XLS1502 amplifier, one driver per channel.
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« Reply #6 on: 22 Nov 2024, 04:46 pm »
Hsu’s are great drivers.  I’d recommend a swarm approach with that many drivers.

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« Reply #7 on: 22 Nov 2024, 06:10 pm »
Hsu’s are great drivers.  I’d recommend a swarm approach with that many drivers.
Thanks, that was my exact thought.
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« Reply #8 on: 7 Dec 2024, 02:53 pm »
Best subwoofer cabinet is a huge concrete bass horn (about the size of a single car garage).

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Re: Best Subwoofer cabinet for 12” HSU driver
« Reply #10 on: 8 Dec 2024, 01:54 am »
So I picked up 8 12” HSU drivers. I would like to build some subwoofer cabinets and would like some design advice.
   So Sealed cabinet with one or two drivers? Passive radiator cabinet with one or two drivers? Thanks Jim
The cabinet type is suggested by the EBP value.
This driver have EBP=50 what indicates it is suited for sealed box.

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« Reply #11 on: 8 Dec 2024, 04:01 am »
I recommend using a box simulator software to model the box using your specific drivers.

I use WinISD for many years. It is free and works well. There are many other box simulators.
https://www.linearteam.org/

You can combine drivers in one box to achieve SPL and impedance that you desire.

The Crown amp has DSP so you can EQ the subs to provide flat response in your room. This also means you can change the Q of the system so the box can be smaller than without electronic DSP, and sound the same as with a larger box. As long as the driver power rating can handle the boosted signal. https://sound-au.com/linkwitz-transform.htm

Generally a sealed alignment is best for music because it has the best transient response and the least group delay, so it is lowest distortion. Passive Radiator and reflex ports are tricks to make lower louder bass without the expense of all active drivers. But all active powered drivers is always best for sound quality.

Your amp EQ will let you force it to play lower than it would in sealed box without DSP, just as low and loud as reflex ported speaker, but sound much better.

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Re: Best Subwoofer cabinet for 12” HSU driver
« Reply #12 on: 10 Dec 2024, 03:39 am »
Thanks richidoo for info,, I have a Vmps larger subwoofer cabinet, that had a 12”and 15” driver and a 15” passive radiator. Just made an adapter to put the 12” HSU driver in the 15” hole, still have to wire up and put
in the CSS 15”passive radiator. Once I get it rocking I can compare to my other Vmps  Larger subwoofer.
This cabinet is 5.476 cubic feet.


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« Reply #13 on: 10 Dec 2024, 05:12 am »

The Crown amp has DSP so you can EQ the subs to provide flat response in your room. This also means you can change the Q of the system so the box can be smaller than without electronic DSP, and sound the same as with a larger box. As long as the driver power rating can handle the boosted signal. https://sound-au.com/linkwitz-transform.htm

Your amp EQ will let you force it to play lower than it would in sealed box without DSP, just as low and loud as reflex ported speaker, but sound much better.

Are you sure there is EQ function in the Crown XLS series?
All I see is DSP for X-O settings.
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Jstower

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Re: Best Subwoofer cabinet for 12” HSU driver
« Reply #14 on: 10 Dec 2024, 05:58 am »
Yes, you’re right the Crown XLS1502 has no EQ, but I also will use the Behringer DXC2496 for crossover and additional adjustments.
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