BRYSTON BP-19 ANALOG PREAMP

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BRYSTON BP-19 ANALOG PREAMP
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Re: BRYSTON BP-19 ANALOG PREAMP
« Reply #1 on: 10 Feb 2024, 07:43 pm »
I am not surprised - I am enjoying the BR-20 and my understanding is that the BP-19 is the same thing minus the digital parts.

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« Reply #2 on: 10 Feb 2024, 08:49 pm »
I am not surprised - I am enjoying the BR-20 and my understanding is that the BP-19 is the same thing minus the digital parts.

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Re: BRYSTON BP-19 ANALOG PREAMP
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Re: BRYSTON BP-19 ANALOG PREAMP vs. BP-17 Cubed
« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 06:53 pm »
I'd be grateful to hear from anyone who has compared the current model BP-19 analogue preamp with the older BP-17 Cubed.

On the used market right now, the former costs about $1000 more than the latter.

So the question on my mind—I currently use the BP-26/MPS-2—is whether I should save up for another year or so in order to purchase a BP-19, or whether the performance of the two models is close enough that it would make sense, or also make sense, to purchase a BP-17 Cubed.

Not that it should matter greatly, bu I would be using a BP-17-3 or BP-19 sometimes with a 4B3, sometimes with a 14B-SST2, and sometimes, using an external crossover, both at the same time.

TIA, Joel.

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Re: BRYSTON BP-19 ANALOG PREAMP
« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 08:27 pm »
Hi Joel

The BP-19 is a pure analog fully balanced design so that's my vote. :thumb:

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Re: BRYSTON BP-19 ANALOG PREAMP
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 08:31 pm »
Hi James,

Thanks for your quick reply.

I may have got it wrong, but isn't the BP-17 Cubed also analogue and fully balanced?
(The one I'm considering comes with a phono stage but, if I'm not mistaken, no digital circuitry.)

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Re: BRYSTON BP-19 ANALOG PREAMP
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 08:39 pm »
The BP-17 has fully differential balanced ins and outs but internally it is single ended.

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Re: BRYSTON BP-19 ANALOG PREAMP
« Reply #14 on: Today at 09:56 am »
To clarify for those who are interested: does this mean that the BP-19 does not have any additional output circuitry to provide balanced outputs, as compared to the single-ended outputs?

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« Reply #15 on: Today at 10:48 am »
An observation for those considering the BP-19. I've had mine for over a year, accompanied by what is essentially a full Bryston system of phono preamp, BDA3, BDP3, T10 speakers used in active mode, a BAX1, (2) 4B3 and (2) 7B3. I use the system almost every day.

When I first received the BP19, I wondered if it was fairly good but perhaps not comparable to the best I've heard. Over the past year I've set out to optimize the listening experience with the system, some related to what the speakers stand on, but much more time (and cost) on cable choices. This has been an interesting journey, as my local "listening panel" can attest (only consists of two people, don't read too much into it).

I'm primarily interested in how the experience of the audio system (and room, you can never forget the room, it's the last part of the reproduction chain) reminds of the experience of hearing live music, particularly acoustic instruments in a good performance space).

Here's what I've been reminded of. There are many, many audio cables sold today that, to varying degrees, "push" or emphasize the upper mids and lower highs, giving an impression of enhanced detail, snap and better clarity. In a system that is voiced on the warm side, or in a situation where room bass emphasis masks mid-range detail, this can be OK. Bryston, on the other hand, has historically gone to great lengths to avoid "voicing", and targeting neutrality. This means the ancilliary components, cables among them, MUST also be chosen with natural musicality in mind, and through careful selection. This doesn't mean spending megabucks, I've had success with moderately priced options, and I'm still working on it, replacing some good choices with alternates, to see if I can do better.

Here's the punch line. The BP-19 has been a constant throughout, and along with the rest of the system, it has seemed to just get better and better as the accessory choices have improved. My goal has remained good representation of detail, including spatial information, but always presented in a musically natural way. For example, I used to wonder if the BP-19 was somewhat limited in its' ability to reveal recorded depth. No more. The BP-19, along with the rest of the system, has stepped up with each improvement or change to cables, including USB connections. (On occasion the system has "stepped back" with certain cables, another expression of neutrality.) The main components you choose are important, but equally so is system setup in all senses. Not just speaker position.

No need to take my word for it. Read Christiaan Punter's review of the BI-200 in HFA, he pretty much nailed it, I think.
https://www.hifi-advice.com/blog/amplifier-reviews/integrated-amplifier-reviews/bryston-bi-200-integrated-amplifier/

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Re: BRYSTON BP-19 ANALOG PREAMP
« Reply #16 on: Today at 11:22 am »
To clarify for those who are interested: does this mean that the BP-19 does not have any additional output circuitry to provide balanced outputs, as compared to the single-ended outputs?

Brian

Hi Brian - the BP-19 is fully differentially Balanced on the inputs and outputs but the signal remains Balanced throughout the internal circuitry - whereas in the BP-17 the Balanced input converts to Single ended through the circuitry and then converts to Balanced out on the output.

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Re: BRYSTON BP-19 ANALOG PREAMP
« Reply #17 on: Today at 12:01 pm »
Thanks James. I'll take this as confirmation that there is no additional circuitry on the balanced outputs.

Brian