[Ola_S]

I’m currently using my BDP-3 with a new DAC and it seem to prefer native DSD and not DoP. Is the implementation of native dsd support still on the development roadmap for the BDP-3? If so when could we expect the release?

Thanks!

[James Tanner]

Hi Ola - no we have not done any further work with DSD on the BDA-3. 

With people moving towards streaming services and digital downloads all in PCM I wonder about the future of DSD.

best
james

[Ola_S]

Sad to hear that, I have a couple of hundred albums in DSD-Format. The download sites do not only offer high resolution PCM-files but also DSD64, 128 and 256. I really like everything about my BDP-3 and is sounds wonderful with PCM. My DAC output level with DoP is significantly lower than when I use a Lumin T2 as usb-source (the Lumin sends native DSD), and DSD128 is not working with DoP via the BDP-3. I have invested in a 4TB SSD in my BDP-3 and native dsd support would be highly appreciated, I can’t imagine that I am alone with that opinion. Maybe talk to Chris and see how much work it would be? Thanks!

[James Tanner]

Sad to hear that, I have a couple of hundred albums in DSD-Format. The download sites do not only offer high resolution PCM-files but also DSD64, 128 and 256. I really like everything about my BDP-3 and is sounds wonderful with PCM. My DAC output level with DoP is significantly lower than when I use a Lumin T2 as usb-source (the Lumin sends native DSD), and DSD128 is not working with DoP via the BDP-3. I have invested in a 4TB SSD in my BDP-3 and native dsd support would be highly appreciated, I can’t imagine that I am alone with that opinion. Maybe talk to Chris and see how much work it would be? Thanks!

I will ask Chris but I believe the DSD issue is a function of hardware limitations not software.

james

[zoom25]

Hi Ola - no we have not done any further work with DSD on the BDA-3. 

With people moving towards streaming services and digital downloads all in PCM I wonder about the future of DSD.

best
james

Hi James,

Any updates on Spotify Connect for Bryston BDPs?

[Francois_Tardif]

Hi. I have a BDP-3 connected to a BDA-3. A NAS is connected to the BDP-3 and I also have a SSD inside the BDP-3. My DSD files play perfectly from both sources, but the USB connection between the BDP-3 and the BDA-3 must be used for the DSD signal to be played. Other digital connections do not accomodate DSD signal (digital coaxial or AES/EBU). Another option that I use is to connect a disc player (an OPPO bluray player) to the BDA-3 with a HDMI cable to play SACD.

Francois

[PeterG]

reiterating what others have stated in this thread....you must use the USB connection between your file player and the BDA-3....clearly stated in the manual....the other connections will convert your DSD signal to PCM or won't play DSD at all (AES on my BDA 3.14)....native DSD, both 64 and 128 (amber indicator light) play perfectly....using the digital output from my Sony HAP Z1ES to the BDA-3.14

[Ola_S]

Of course the USB interface is used! The problem I have is that the BDP-3 only sends DSD over PCM (DoP) and not natively. If I send DoP to my BDA-3 the corresponding LED is lit in green, if it get native DSD however, the same LED is lit in amber. So clearly the BDP-3 only send DoP and can’t handle DSD128. For the kind of money this player costs (5247€ here in the EU) I don’t think it is too much to ask that it can handle the two mainstream format groups used for two channel audio (PCM and DSD).

[The Rang]

I feed my BDA-3 with two players, Cambridge CXU and Sony UBP-M800.2
Both supposedly output native DSD via HDMI, at least that’s what their manuals and OSD’s say.
And they are set that way via their menus.
But I have yet to see the DSD light glow in any colour other than blue (I chose that option over green)
The amber equivalent would be a pinkish red colour.
Am I getting DoP ?

[James Tanner]

I feed my BDA-3 with two players, Cambridge CXU and Sony UBP-M800.2
Both supposedly output native DSD via HDMI, at least that’s what their manuals and OSD’s say.
And they are set that way via their menus.
But I have yet to see the DSD light glow in any colour other than blue (I chose that option over green)
The amber equivalent would be a pinkish red colour.
Am I getting DoP ?

Hi Rang - Both BDA3 and BR20 support Native DSD up to 256 on the USB input. HDMI is Native to 64 (SACD).

james

[James Tanner]

The BDP-3 will output Native DSD up to 256 on USB.

DOP is the same as Native - the DOP is just the carrier of the native DSD file.

james

[Ola_S]

The BDP-3 will output Native DSD up to 256 on USB.

DOP is the same as Native - the DOP is just the carrier of the native DSD file.

james

It is clearly not the same, the data protocol is different  . Of course the data inside the “PCM container” is the same. But again, many DACS are limited, like my Accuphase DAC, to what they can receive via DoP (DoP 128 should work but with the BDP-3 it does not).

[James Tanner]

Hi Ola - Yes I guess the variation in DAC's is an issue.  With our DAC the BDP-3 works fine.

james

[Ola_S]

I have some news regarding my BDP-3. Yesterday it suddenly stopped working and when I did a power cycle it stayed in initializing state. I opened it and check the cable from the front to the main board and it was a bit loose (probably still had contact). It booted ok but then when attached to the equipment it didn’t boot again. I changed to another USB-port and now all of a sudden my DAC recognizes the 1-bit format, also DSD128!

[Stefan_DR3]

Can you hear a big difference in DSD64 and DSD128? 
Since all SACDs are mastered from DSD64, wouldn't that represent the majority of reputable files, notwithstanding audiophile extravaganza?