Re doug s's observation: "if werticus is being blown out of his room w/his speakers, w/headroom to spare, this still indicates to me that, (assuming similar room sizes), akopperl will still be ok w/the ref 8 amps in his rig."
- I'd be a little cautious in accepting the gush of good ol' werticus, who seems to have some compulsive urge to endlessly evangelise in vaccuous hyperbole about his NuForce amp(s).
Consider his statement "i have 89db efficient speakers and the nuforce can play them loud enough to damage hearing easily. And with room to go louder. the scary thing is its crystal clear this loud."
Now werticus, old biscuit, exactly how loud is "loud enough to damage hearing easily"? Have you taken a dB measurement? Indeed, do you really know exactly how loud is loud enough to damage hearing, and how long the exposure at such a level must be? I put it to you that any cheap amp from, say, Kmart could damage hearing...so what is your point here?
Could it be that in your unending zeal to affirm, reaffirm and re-re-re-re-re-reaffirm that you have the holy grail of amps in your very own possession and that this somehow reflects gloriously on you as a person that you are grabbing mindlessly at any opportunity to spread the good word without pausing to properly consider whether your latest rave has any real substance?
I can only reiterate my findings that the 75watt NF ran out of guts and certainly could not handle hard rock at the sort of volumes I like. I have not yet auditioned the 100watters, and acknowledge that with the mods - which do sound very promising from what I've READ - my gripes with the 75s may have been addressed. So, I am not having a shot at NuForce. My problem is with posters who indiscriminately rave on in excessive terms that can only detract from their credibility as a reliable assessment source.
I don't have to look far back on this thread for further examples. In response to another poster's comment that he preferred to wait for NF upgrades to ensue such that the product "has some stability in its design", werticus declared "yeah sure but it already sounds better than anything else." Better than ANYTHING else? So, werticus, how about a bit of backup? Have you HEARD everything else? If not, on what basis do you make such an extravagant claim?
Trace this thread back to its beginning and you will see numerous raves from werticus, all virtually identical in their hyperbole concerning the 75 watt NF amps, the 100watters, and the 100 watters with mods. Yet he states a couple of days back that "I have the latest version of nuforce 8b its a fair bit of an improvement actually." So, does this mean you acknowledge you were over the top in your proclamations about the earlier versions, wert? Or couldn't you hear their shortcomings all by yourself? Are you really able to hear the difference now, or are you simply accepting that mods make it all sound better? You disputed my contention in an earlier post that the NF amps were flawed in the high frequencies, then along came Jason from NF with the admirably frank acknowledgement that this is an area that needs improvement, but that some people do not have the sensitivity to hear the HF flaws (flaws that may well have now been addressed with the mods that have occurred). My suspicion is that you have dug in with your opinion long ago and are no longer hearing anything but what you want to hear and want to believe. Why else would you keep coming out with outrageously extravagant and unqualified declarations like "it already sounds better than anything else"?
I state again, I am absolutely open to the possibility that the NF product may be extraordinary value, or at least have the potential to be so in time and with further development, but I find the indiscriminate gush of the werticuses of the audiophile world irritating to the point where sometimes I can't abide it another moment without resorting to venting my annoyance in posts like this.
Try counting to 10 before you post any more meaningless oneliners of superlatives, and ask yourself before you hit "submit" whether your rave has any substance in fact. You might find more satisfaction in joining some pentacostal church, or an appropriate variant of same, that gives an outlet to folk who like to burble on in tongues and faint in ecstasy.
