Teac A-L700P Versus Sharp SD-EX111

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toobwacky

Teac A-L700P Versus Sharp SD-EX111
« on: 13 Mar 2005, 12:54 am »
Could Vinnie or someone briefly describe the technological differences between the amplifiers in the Teac A-L700P and Sharp SD-EX111?

I own both and the Teac’s  have a Tripath chip which appears to handle amplification chores as it’s heat sinked, yet puts out very little heat regardless of volume level.

OTOH, the Sharp appears to have 4 small heat-sinked output transistors which generate a moderate amount of heat.

Can anyone describe the major differences between the 2 topologies?

Thanks!

tw

mcgsxr

Teac A-L700P Versus Sharp SD-EX111
« Reply #1 on: 15 Mar 2005, 12:31 am »
As one of the few who own both, could you elaborate on what you think they sound like?

Never heard the Sharp, but I do own a JVC hybrid feedback "executive unit"...

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Re: Teac A-L700P Verus Sharp SD-EX111
« Reply #2 on: 15 Mar 2005, 01:02 am »
Quote from: toobwacky
Could Vinnie or someone briefly describe the technological differences between the amplifiers in the Teac A-L700P and Sharp SD-EX111?

I own both and the Teac’s  have a Tripath chip which appears to handle amplification chores as it’s heat sinked, yet puts out very little heat regardless of volume level.

OTOH, the Sharp appears to have 4 small heat-sinked output transistors which generate a moderate amount of heat.

Can anyone describe the major differences between the 2 topologies?

Thanks!

tw


Hi TW,

The Teac uses a Tripath chipset, which is called Class-T amplification.  This uses Tripath's proprietory high frequency switching algorithm (called DPP, or Digital Power Processing) to modulate the input signal that enters the chip.  It is 'sort of' similar to Class D, but more complex.  

The Sharp's amplfication topology consists of Sharp's 7th order delta-sigma modulation chip, followed by a switching power amplifer chip.  This technique is very similar to SACD's (DSD)), and the switching frequency is 5.64MHz (128 x 44.1kHz...no coincidence there  :wink:).  There is another Sharp using that uses a lower freq of 2.82MHz (64 x 44.1kHz).  

You are feeling more heat out of the Sharp because it uses all-linear power supplies, which are less efficient (generates more heat) but much cleaner.  The Teac uses a high freq. switching power supply that is more efficient (geneates less heat), but generates more high freq hash (noise).  

>>OTOH, the Sharp appears to have 4 small heat-sinked output transistors which generate a moderate amount of heat.

No, these are the linear regulators...part of the power supply, not the amplifier chips.  Actually, the amplifer stage, as well as the cdp's dac stage, are individually enclosed in metal boxes (very nice!  8) ), and have all separatle regulated supplies.  Remember, the Sharp did sell for $499 in 2003, so you'd expect this degree of higher quality for this price...if you were a *cough* sucker *cough* back then.  :mrgreen:   :lol:

Hope this helps,

toobwacky

Teac A-L700P Versus Sharp SD-EX111
« Reply #3 on: 15 Mar 2005, 03:35 am »
Vinnie... Thanks for taking the time to provide such a comprehensive answer!  I appreciate the fact that you're so willing to share your knowledge :D

mcgsxr said: "As one of the few who own both, could you elaborate on what you think they sound like?"

I used both the Sharp and the Teac to drive a pair of Monitor Audio MA-202s.  These have a 7" woofer, 1" aluminum dome with gold anodized finish and 1st order cross-overs in a floor standing cabinet that's flat down to 40 hz at around 90db sensitivity.  These speakers are very smooth sounding, to say the least.  

I thought the Teac sounded great driving these speakers, but when I put the Sharp into the system it was obvious the Sharp had smoother and more extended highs.  The Teac's high frequencies sound fine and you'd never think an amp could sound better in this regard, but when I put the Sharp into the system, to my ears, the highs are noticeably improved.  OTOH, the Teac seems to have more drive with these speakers.

If I can defeat the portion of the head phone circuit that disconnects the Sharp's amplifiers (when a phone plug is inserted) I'm going to use the Sharp's amps to drive the tweeters of my MA-202s and the Teac to drive the mid-woofers.  This should yeild the superior drive of the Teac and the high frequency purity of the Sharp  :idea: