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PS Audio, BPT, Shunyata, Audio Magic, High Fidelity, Audience, Furutech, Emotiva, Exact Power, Cullen, MIT, Richard Gray, Furman, Synergistic Research, Bybee, Acoustic Revive, Nordost, Silver Circle, Monster, Panamax, TrippLite, Topaz, Running Springs, Inakustik, and CorePower are the brands I recall trying over the years.Anything with a transformer, unless it was really large, limited amp current. A Class A or AB amp has a tranny and if it is trying to draw current and is choked by a smaller tranny between it and the wall, then you have a limiting situation.Passives are great if they can really do the cleaning they purport. Many of us have tried passives on amps and more actives on front ends with decent results. I've never owned a Shunyata that actually cleaned up the juice but I love their digital cable. The best actives I owned 3 times were BPT and Silver Circle (once). I make my own high fidelity units and they are literally running the juice through the magnet. Interesting but not a real cleaning machine per se. In the end everyone is stuck with chokes, caps, filters, clamping devices, crystals, fairy dust ROCHELLE SALT (potassium sodium tartrate), etc. like everyone else. And they also contribute a degree of choking. I have great power coming out of my wall so little work is required on that end other than system generated noise.You need a device that solves your problem. Voltage fluctuations, brownouts, poor grounding, high frequency noise, motor noise, fluorescent light noise, etc.Inakustik was the king for me until I tried the Puritan and now I am done. Everything except my server is through the Puritan.Next house, next electrical; problem could mean a different solution. Go passive if you can unless you have a very small amp or buy very large active unit.
I have been using the Richard Gray 1200 for many years but it has a high outward impedance and chokes. As do most. I just went with a P.I. Audio UberBuss(with Neutrik 32A connector) which has hardly any outward impedance and a power factor correction of 1. And no surge suppression(getting a Seimens RS 140 installed at the breaker panel for whole house surge suppression. That, with a Triode Wire Labs High Power Digital American with same Neutrik 32A connector into a 30A dedicated line. Enormous instantaneous power on demand!
30 Amps is serious. I'm sure Tommy hooked you up! Sounds a serious attack on the topic and kudos for grabbing it by the balls!!!BTW, weeks ago, pre-hospital stay, I did move my server to my Puritan. Can't say a got a bump, but I had the extra circuit so said what the heck and plugged it into the Puritan. Still one of the best system sounds I have had.Covid kicked my ass and I'm on O2 recovering my lung capacity.
Big Red:Get well soon.While I will state some are a waste of good air,YOU ain't one of em.Best of luck in your recovery.Don
Thanks, Don. I was in very bad shape and now working my way back. Retraining my lungs. All the shit I gave about this virus last year came back to kick me in the face. I had fantastic hospital care. The Owensboro Covid ward had 47 beds available. Only 14 rooms being used right now as cases are way down. I'm generating my own anti-bodies.
I have read that one of the disadvantages of a power conditioner is that they can prevent a power amplifier from receiving all the current it is asking for, thus preventing the music from achieving its full dynamic range. For this reason, I have also read many posts in various forums to plug the power amplifier directly into a wall outlet, instead of one of the outlets in the conditioner.In your experience, is this true, and if so, can someone please explain how the conditioner limits the current?Thank you, in advance...Ron
Covid kicked my ass and I'm on O2 recovering my lung capacity.
...Anything with a transformer, unless it was really large, limited amp current. A Class A or AB amp has a tranny and if it is trying to draw current and is choked by a smaller tranny between it and the wall, then you have a limiting situation....
Charles,When a power conditioner has 'high current' outlets, do you know what they do differently than the other outlets?Ron
In my limited experience, the presence of high current outlets hasn't guaranteed improvement vs. the wall. My PS Audio Stellar P3 regenerator has high current outlets (those are not supplied with regenerated power) and my BHK250 amp still sounds better direct into the wall outlet. However, the regenerator improves the sound of all the front end components greatly. I'd also tried a Shunyata MPC12a conditioner in the past with the BHK250, same story - sounded better directly into wall. Same story with my 30 watt per channel Decware ZenTorii amp, sounds better direct into the wall than through any of the six conditioners/regenerators I've tried. I do read posts from many listeners who say the big PS Audio regenerators are an improvement over the wall with their amps but I've not tried one of those.
I gotta give kudos to everyone on this thread and much respect for the civility on a topic that can be controversial. I’ll stick strictly to my own experience during the past dozen years or so of playing with power management equipment.
BUT ...I could not hear any difference!
