Unexpected HD short life

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Unexpected HD short life
« on: 13 Sep 2020, 10:38 pm »
It was a Seagate Barracuda sata 500gb firmware KC45 7200rpm lasted only 7 / 8 years, 200gb used.

It simple dont start, I have two questions:
- 5400rpm disks will last longer? 
- How I reset the use clock counter?

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Re: Unexpected HD short life
« Reply #1 on: 14 Sep 2020, 04:19 am »
If it don't start you can't fix it. Sometime you can put the hdd in a plastic bag in the freezer for a few hours, then while still freezing cold plug it in for data recovery but this procedure will not resurrect a dead drive.

I think you mean "Used Reserved Block Count" not "use clock counter"?

How to Fix S.M.A.R.T. 0xB2 Error: Used Reserved Block Count
https://recoveryutility.com/fix-used-reserved-block-count-smart-error

You can also do a Low Level Format and pick the zero fill erase option

The most common reasons to Zero Fill a SATA or ATA (IDE) hard drive are:

    to remove a virus that cannot be removed without destroying the boot sector.
    to change from one operating system to another and wish to remove everything from the drive.
    to erase confidential information for privacy reasons.
    to scan for bad sectors that can be detected and replaced with good spare sectors when writing to the sectors.

Seagate has a tool: https://www.seagate.com/support/kb/how-do-i-low-level-format-a-sata-or-ata-ide-hard-drive-203931en/

Other tools: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=seagate+low+level+format

But again, if it doesn't spin up then it's a door stop. As for rpm vs. longevity I haven't a clue.

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Re: Unexpected HD short life
« Reply #2 on: 14 Sep 2020, 05:31 am »
There is the option tô just change the control board around  $20.

I dont need recover data as I have backup in DVD, I will lost only the FF favorités always a pitá.

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Re: Unexpected HD short life
« Reply #3 on: 14 Sep 2020, 03:01 pm »
Let us know how it works out.

How did you diagnose the hdd to find out the control board is bad instead of a mechanical problem?

I would buy a new 1TB drive for $35.99 instead of putting $20 into an 8 year old dead drive.
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-BarraCuda-Internal-Drive-3-5-Inch/dp/B07QHK5MXF/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3UHUH8DWD42TK&dchild=1&keywords=seagate+barracuda+1tb&qid=1600095584&sprefix=seagate%2Caps%2C233&sr=8-3

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Re: Unexpected HD short life
« Reply #4 on: 15 Sep 2020, 10:51 pm »
I had some resolutions:
- No more Seagate, will move tô other brand.
- no more 7200rpm too  fast  short life

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Re: Unexpected HD short life
« Reply #5 on: 15 Sep 2020, 11:24 pm »
On Google I found usualy the control pcb are damaged due heat.

In my case I believe the pcb are fine as some time ago the  HD show a hi spl treble noise - Scraping head.

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Re: Unexpected HD short life
« Reply #6 on: 15 Sep 2020, 11:53 pm »
The inclination to boycott a manufacturer as the result of a disappointing experience is totally understandable.  Most, if not all, hard drive manufacturers have had a run of drives whose reliability seems to underperform - going back 15 to 20 years, the IBM "Deathstar" was the range to hate. IBM sold their drive business to Hitachi (HGST) and reliability ranks very highly these days.

One great source of information to reference before buying new drives is published by Backblaze.  This is one of the best ways to reduce the risk of buying a drive from a "troubled" line.

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-q1-2020/   


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Re: Unexpected HD short life
« Reply #7 on: 16 Sep 2020, 12:22 am »
Thanks very Interesting.
Any opinion on the brand Western Digital?

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Re: Unexpected HD short life
« Reply #8 on: 16 Sep 2020, 01:25 am »
Any opinion on the brand Western Digital?

Like the stock market, past hard drive performance is no guarantee of future performance.

To find out if a Western Digital hard drive made today would last until 2030 and beyond would require the use of a 1982 DeLorean DMC-12 with a flux capacitor.

Search for Enterprise Class Hard Drives if concerned about longevity but expect to pay double verses a consumer drive's cost. Check out the guarantees, some are 10 years.

"HGST was the most reliable of the hard drive providers and had an annual failure of only 1 percent. Toshiba had an annual failure rate of nearly 3.5 percent, Seagate ranked in at slightly more than that but still under 4 percent, and Western Digital topped the charts at just under 7 percent."
https://platinumdatarecovery.com/blog/which-hard-drive-brand-is-the-most-reliable

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Re: Unexpected HD short life
« Reply #9 on: 16 Sep 2020, 08:38 am »
Thanks  :thumb:

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Re: Unexpected HD short life
« Reply #10 on: 16 Sep 2020, 09:10 am »
WD is what I use for portable 2.5" 5400 RPM drives (My Passport), external powered 3.5" 7200 RPM hard drives (My Book), and NAS drives (Red 5400 RPM). I use these for storage.

For SATA OS drives in non-Macs, like the Intel NUC, I've switched to Samsung 860 EVO. The other SSD I'd consider is the Crucial MX500. If I wanted a HDD for internal use with OS and apps, or high reliability, I'd opt for the WD Gold Enterprise.

Most people also find WD's quieter in general in comparison to relative Seagate models. For example, I keep my Red inside a DS119J a meter away and I hear it only at startup when it spins up. At its normal spinning speed, its barely there and even if I hear it, it's not annoying at all. I've had other drives that were quite irritating. 5400 RPM from WD is my recommendation if silence is required.