NFL 2020-2021

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« Reply #120 on: 11 Jan 2021, 11:26 am »
First play of the game Pouncey hikes-it straight up - 3 feet over Ben's head - now that was impressive!!  :lol: :lol:

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« Reply #121 on: 11 Jan 2021, 02:34 pm »
Sorry for giving you a hard time my friend, but a little perspective is good for all of us.

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The Eagles mortgaged their future to get Wentz and they're playing for it now.

no more pathetic that the Phillies and Bryce Harper while all along having a garbage pitching staff / bull pen for years .....

 
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For the record I was on board with the gamble, and it worked out to a degree, they did win a superbowl.  Carson hasn't been the same since his knee injury, last year it was always the knee not fully healed yet, then the back, he's physically not the same athlete and will likely never be.  And having spent all those draft picks the supporting cast has suffered, the O line is all old men and castoffs leaving a wounded Wentz to carry the team on his back.  He hasn't been successful in that.

no question the injuries have had an effect but even the most ardent Eagles fan will admit there is but one direction this club has gone since Frank Reich's departure, DOWN !

As for last nights debacle in Pittsburgh I admit I didn't see that coming ......


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« Reply #122 on: 11 Jan 2021, 03:49 pm »

no question the injuries have had an effect but even the most ardent Eagles fan will admit there is but one direction this club has gone since Frank Reich's departure, DOWN !

As for last nights debacle in Pittsburgh I admit I didn't see that coming ......

Head coaches in the NFL are administrators, it's the coordinators and position coaches who run the team.  Pederson put together one of the finest staffs in the league and I'd agree that that after Frank left the offense hasn't been the same.

Not a bigger first half debacle since the Atlanta-NE Superbowl.  In this one Ben couldn't run or throw to generate a Brady like comeback.  I know the 500 yards and all, he still had no control on long or short throws and couldn't escape pressure, he kept throwing the ball away to avoid contact.  He had a wonderful hall of fame career that's now over.
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« Reply #123 on: 11 Jan 2021, 03:58 pm »
As a long-suffering Browns fan, last night was more than I could have ever imagined, especially considering the Browns had so many players out as well as several coaches.

No matter what happens next week, it's been a great season and the future looks bright. They have a coach who looks like the real deal, a nucleus of good young players, a bunch of draft picks this spring, and some salary cap space to work some deals. They're set at QB, RB, TE, and OL. They could use another WR, a DE, DT, LB and a S in case Grant Delpit isn't ready.

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« Reply #124 on: 11 Jan 2021, 05:44 pm »
I think the Browns have a chance against the Chiefs. The Chiefs are a great team to be sure, but "juggernaut" doesn't exactly describe their play since the beginning of November. Every game they've won since then was by 6 points or less including Carolina (5-11), Las Vegas (8-8), Denver (5-11), and Atlanta (4-12). They played only 5 games all season against teams with winning records. All but one of those games were close.

KC ranks 21st in the NFL in rush defense and the Browns are 3rd in rush offense. I'm not predicting a win, but if the Browns can sustain drives and chew up clock with Chubb and Hunt, they stand a puncher's chance.

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« Reply #125 on: 11 Jan 2021, 06:04 pm »
I'd love to see a Bills / Browns AFC Championship game !

You know what they say about Cleveland and Buffalo ......... two mistakes on a lake !

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« Reply #126 on: 11 Jan 2021, 06:28 pm »
I'd love to see a Bills / Browns AFC Championship game !

You know what they say about Cleveland and Buffalo ......... two mistakes on a lake !

Over the past few years there has been a lot of grousing among Browns fans about their operations manager Paul Depodesta (of Moneyball fame). They thought a "baseball guy" and analytics had no place in football. Yet in consecutive hiring opportunities, Depodesta recommended that the Browns hire Sean McDermott in 2016 and Kevin Stefanski in 2019. Instead, the "football guys" in the organization opted for Hue Jackson and Freddie Kitchens. McDermott was hired the following year by the Bills and transformed that team, and Stefanski, as Vikings OC, had the #8 offense and made it to the division round of the playoffs.

Since then, McDermott and Stefanski have gone a combined 51-33 and 4 playoff appearances in 5 seasons and Jackson and Kitchens were a combined 9-46-1.

The Browns and Bills are definitely two hard-working, blue-collar teams that represent blue-collar towns.

twitch54

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« Reply #127 on: 11 Jan 2021, 06:33 pm »
Over the past few years there has been a lot of grousing among Browns fans about their operations manager Paul Depodesta (of Moneyball fame). They thought a "baseball guy" and analytics had no place in football. Yet in consecutive hiring opportunities, Depodesta recommended that the Browns hire Sean McDermott in 2016 and Kevin Stefanski in 2019. Instead, the "football guys" in the organization opted for Hue Jackson and Freddie Kitchens. McDermott was hired the following year by the Bills and transformed that team, and Stefanski, as Vikings OC, had the #8 offense and made it to the division round of the playoffs.

Since then, McDermott and Stefanski have gone a combined 51-33 and 4 playoff appearances in 5 seasons and Jackson and Kitchens were a combined 9-46-1.

The Browns and Bills are definitely two hard-working, blue-collar teams that represent blue-collar towns.

all good stuff, as for the Bills and IMO, the group is in the best shape it's been in since Kelly / Levy. I attended my first Bills game at the old 'Rock Pile' back in '61, the year before we got Kemp off the waiver wire from the Chargers. My fingers are crossed .........

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« Reply #128 on: 11 Jan 2021, 07:20 pm »
Pederson fired as Eagles coach!

twitch54

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« Reply #129 on: 11 Jan 2021, 07:25 pm »
Pederson fired as Eagles coach!

not surprised, let the rebuilding begin ..........

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« Reply #130 on: 11 Jan 2021, 10:31 pm »
Pederson fired as Eagles coach!

Jets will be on the phone.

twitch54

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« Reply #131 on: 12 Jan 2021, 12:44 am »
Jets will be on the phone.

God Bless him .........

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« Reply #132 on: 12 Jan 2021, 02:02 am »
"The Browns and Bills are definitely two hard-working, blue-collar teams that represent blue-collar towns."

I agree.  Def not Gucci or Armani here.  It's Tractor Supply and Levis.  This would be a good match up of two good young QB's and I hope the weather is miserable. 

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« Reply #133 on: 12 Jan 2021, 03:44 am »

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« Reply #134 on: 12 Jan 2021, 04:00 am »
I think the Browns have a chance against the Chiefs.

i hope you are right, for the sake of seeing a competitive game, but i suspect they will be beaten quite badly

rodge827

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« Reply #135 on: 12 Jan 2021, 04:27 am »
Roll Tide Roll!!

 Looks like another one for Saban and Co. :thumb:

stlrman

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« Reply #136 on: 16 Jan 2021, 03:04 pm »
Top offense against the top defense Rams - Packers
Really psyched for Ravens - Bills !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumb: :thumb:

twitch54

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« Reply #137 on: 16 Jan 2021, 03:16 pm »
fingers crossed for Bills & Browns, an AFL Championship game I'd love to see !

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« Reply #138 on: 16 Jan 2021, 03:40 pm »
fingers crossed for Bills & Browns, an AFL Championship game I'd love to see !

Ha ha, not afraid of the Chiefs are you?  Of course not, I'm sure you just want a home game.  The Browns were a great underdog with the best o-line in the league, but with the injuries I don't know what we'll see.  I don't expect them to get through the weekend, but they have a puncher's chance as any of the teams playing this weekend do.  A fine slate of games.

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« Reply #139 on: 16 Jan 2021, 04:28 pm »
Ha ha, not afraid of the Chiefs are you?  Of course not, I'm sure you just want a home game. 

Actually it's the 'feel good' story, besides Bflo & Cleveland are kindred spirits (two mistakes on a lake) and yes another home game for the Bills Mafia would be nice !