GR-Research Speaker Cables build by Rock Ball

EJHickert

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Re: GR-Research Speaker Cables build by Rock Ball
« Reply #160 on: 10 Feb 2023, 07:51 pm »
These are really great speaker cables. I made a pair too and have left them in my main system! Will share pics soon! Thanks,

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« Reply #161 on: 9 Mar 2023, 09:41 pm »
I have been lurking on this thread for a bit more than a year now. I made these cables using Denny's YouTube video, along with supplies I purchased on Amazon and AliExpress.
Specifically, I made the 8TC cables.
The cables turned out very well. Denny's instructions and advice on this thread and his video were helpful.
Before using the cables, I was listening via a NAD 7020e. The sound was nice, but when using my Raspberry Pi4 streamer and Schiit DAC, I couldn't help but notice a lot of subtle background noise. When listening to songs with quiet passages (for instance, CSN's "Delta" off the Daylight Again album) I would hear the annoying hiss of background noise. Almost like an audible shower head in the distance.
I knew I had a noise problem... clearly.
After creating a new ground for my system (a 6 foot long threaded rod ratcheted (by hand!) into the ground), the noise floor was still prevalent.
I've used a fair amount of speaker cables over the years. Some good, some bad. After making these 8TC cables, and connecting them to my system, I was absolutely astonished. The noise was gone. History. Inaudible. Listening to Delta is now a joy, as the hiss has been deleted by these cables.
I would say that stripping the jackets off the wire ends was the most difficult part. However, I purchased a nice wire stripper that made the job easy, and protected the copper wires themselves. After stripping and separating the wires, the assembly was rather easy. In fact, it was embarrassingly easy.
Luckily I owned a heat gun, so the heat shrink went on easily and is still showing no signs of separating.
For those who believe wires need burn in times, I have been using them for about 14 months now. They continue to be fantastic. I have since upgraded to a vintage McIntosh MA6100. The sound is perfect, and the noise floor so low I can't hear any hiss or noise when I am up next to the speakers (vintage Allison Acoustic LC-110s). 
The investment in this project is laughably minimal. Seriously... less than $100. However, the payoff has been largest in my listening history.
If you are on the fence, or doubt these work, spend the money to find out. You will be impressed and become a believer.

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« Reply #162 on: 3 Nov 2023, 12:34 pm »
Who is this “Denny” you speak of? The proprietor of GR Research is DAnny Richie.  :o  Just a friendly heads-up. Welcome to the GR Research Circle.

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« Reply #163 on: 7 Dec 2023, 06:07 pm »
Hey all,
New to the forum group, but have done a couple of Danny's cross-over builds in the past.
He did a couple videos on my Epos ES 12 speakers a couple years ago (three?!)

I am in the process of building a few of these speaker wire/cables for my two systems, and for a couple friends systems for Christmas presents.
I wanted to experiment with using the 'magic sauce' ERS cloth material (using more of it, less of it), but didn't know if GR can sell it alone, or if there is a resource for it?
Many thanks. 
Looking forward, (and NOT looking forward!) to many hours of stripping wires and stuffing rope!



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Re: GR-Research Speaker Cables build by Rock Ball
« Reply #164 on: 7 Dec 2023, 07:36 pm »
Hey all,
New to the forum group, but have done a couple of Danny's cross-over builds in the past.
He did a couple videos on my Epos ES 12 speakers a couple years ago (three?!)

I am in the process of building a few of these speaker wire/cables for my two systems, and for a couple friends systems for Christmas presents.
I wanted to experiment with using the 'magic sauce' ERS cloth material (using more of it, less of it), but didn't know if GR can sell it alone, or if there is a resource for it?
Many thanks. 
Looking forward, (and NOT looking forward!) to many hours of stripping wires and stuffing rope!




If you're going to be doing a lot of wire stripping, do yourself a favor and get one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Stripper-Electrical-Klein-Tools-11063W/dp/B00BC39YFQ/

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Re: GR-Research Speaker Cables build by Rock Ball
« Reply #165 on: 7 Dec 2023, 07:47 pm »
If you're going to be doing a lot of wire stripping, do yourself a favor and get one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Stripper-Electrical-Klein-Tools-11063W/dp/B00BC39YFQ/

I second this suggestion, best stripper for the job!

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Re: GR-Research Speaker Cables build by Rock Ball
« Reply #166 on: 7 Dec 2023, 09:42 pm »
We do sell the ESR paper by itself, just give us a call :thumb:

AMTPROD

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« Reply #167 on: 8 Dec 2023, 06:20 am »
Holy cow, that is a GADGET!!!!!!!!!!!  Thanks for the recommendation!!!

If you're going to be doing a lot of wire stripping, do yourself a favor and get one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Stripper-Electrical-Klein-Tools-11063W/dp/B00BC39YFQ/

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« Reply #168 on: 8 Dec 2023, 06:20 am »
Oh awesome!!!  I'll try calling tomorrow, but will likely be Monday. 
Many thanks!!

We do sell the ESR paper by itself, just give us a call :thumb:

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« Reply #169 on: 12 Mar 2025, 06:11 am »
Mechanical stripper is a good tool to have.  Make sure it is of good quality or you'll find that it has difficulty in cleanly cutting the insulation.
I prefer to use thermal strippers since they take the guess work out of choosing the size of the cable vs the mechanical stripping tool.

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« Reply #170 on: 4 May 2026, 08:15 pm »
Is the ESR paper "secret sauce" the same as faraday cloth or fabric that has some metal content?

And how does it help when it only covers a small part of the non-woven part of the cable?

Thanks,

Pete

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« Reply #171 on: 4 May 2026, 11:14 pm »
Is the ESR paper "secret sauce" the same as faraday cloth or fabric that has some metal content?

And how does it help when it only covers a small part of the non-woven part of the cable?

Thanks,

Pete

It is similar to a radar absorbent material. 

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« Reply #172 on: 5 May 2026, 02:26 pm »
Thanks Danny,

I'm looking at building a pair of 16 strand cables.  I'm still wondering about applying this ESR paper.  From Rock Ball's build, it looks like a small band before the "Y" split.  Is that preferred over covering everything after the "Y" up to the connector?

If I buy your ESR paper with the raw cable, how much material is provided at what cost?

If it isn't the Faraday cloth, which seems to have nickel/copper, is it microwave ferrite shielding similar to this: 
https://www.amazon.com/Microwave-Shielding-Absorbing-Antimagnetic-200x300x0-2mm/dp/B0F3VV4TG1

I would like to understand more of the technology.  The link you provided to look at the tech is no longer good (https://www.stillpoints.us/index.php/product/ers).

Thanks again

Danny Richie

Re: GR-Research Speaker Cables build by Rock Ball
« Reply #173 on: 5 May 2026, 05:39 pm »
Thanks Danny,

I'm looking at building a pair of 16 strand cables.  I'm still wondering about applying this ESR paper.  From Rock Ball's build, it looks like a small band before the "Y" split.  Is that preferred over covering everything after the "Y" up to the connector?

If I buy your ESR paper with the raw cable, how much material is provided at what cost?

If it isn't the Faraday cloth, which seems to have nickel/copper, is it microwave ferrite shielding similar to this: 
https://www.amazon.com/Microwave-Shielding-Absorbing-Antimagnetic-200x300x0-2mm/dp/B0F3VV4TG1

I would like to understand more of the technology.  The link you provided to look at the tech is no longer good (https://www.stillpoints.us/index.php/product/ers).

Thanks again

The material acts like an absorber. If you use too much of it then it starts eating into spatial cues.

If you wrap it around your phone it will knock the bars down from 4 or 5 down to 1 or 0.

We also bought out every roll they had. So we are the only source for it. It was not cheap either. It is really pricey material. We cut it into 3/4" to 1" strips when we use it, and we have to sell it for $1 per inch wide piece.

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« Reply #174 on: 5 May 2026, 09:17 pm »
Ok, thanks for the explanation.  That makes sense.  So, it sounds like 8 pieces for a pair of speaker wires, correct?  Can I order online with the cable order or do I need to order in a different way?

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« Reply #175 on: 5 May 2026, 09:26 pm »
Ok, thanks for the explanation.  That makes sense.  So, it sounds like 8 pieces for a pair of speaker wires, correct?  Can I order online with the cable order or do I need to order in a different way?

You can order our cables online.

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« Reply #176 on: 5 May 2026, 09:38 pm »
The cable, yes. But I don't see the esr paper to order with it.

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« Reply #177 on: 5 May 2026, 09:55 pm »
Order the speaker termination kit and there is some in the pack.  :thumb:

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« Reply #178 on: 5 May 2026, 10:09 pm »
That's $39 instead of $8 with parts I don't need.

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« Reply #179 on: 5 May 2026, 10:22 pm »
That's $39 instead of $8 with parts I don't need.

Wasn't sure if you needed connections for your cables as well.