GR-Research Speaker Cables build by Rock Ball

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Danny Richie

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« Reply #60 on: 23 Oct 2020, 07:41 pm »
The instructional information in the first post and pictures were so good that I had to make it a sticky.

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« Reply #61 on: 23 Oct 2020, 07:51 pm »
Ill probably be putting my order for a set over the weekend! :thumb:
(Congratulations on the sticky!)

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« Reply #62 on: 23 Oct 2020, 11:04 pm »
Ill probably be putting my order for a set over the weekend! :thumb:

Smart move.

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« Reply #63 on: 23 Oct 2020, 11:28 pm »
Think I'll be placing an order over the weekend as well and possibly use some KLE bananas I already have on hand.

Does anyone know if the copper is OCC or OFC?

Wig :thumb:

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« Reply #64 on: 24 Oct 2020, 01:59 am »
Is there someone on the forum who could terminate them for me, for a reasonable price?  I love DIY and used to be an electrician, so it is frustrating to need help with something so simple, but I am a quadriplegic due to an accident and have very little use of my arms/hands now. 

Thanks in advance! 

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« Reply #65 on: 24 Oct 2020, 05:33 pm »
123, Whereabouts are you located?

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« Reply #66 on: 25 Oct 2020, 01:29 am »
Ordered 12' (6' per side) of the 16-strand cable with tube connectors & banana plugs it'll be my project for next week!  :thumb:
Really interested to see how much of a difference it makes, compared to my cheap 12 gague zipcord. :D

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« Reply #67 on: 25 Oct 2020, 06:12 am »
123, Whereabouts are you located?

Hi Chilkoot, I'm in NJ Near Philadelphia

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« Reply #68 on: 25 Oct 2020, 06:17 am »
Ordered 12' (6' per side) of the 16-strand cable with tube connectors & banana plugs it'll be my project for next week!  :thumb:
Really interested to see how much of a difference it makes, compared to my cheap 12 gague zipcord. :D

Cool! Do your speakers already have the tube connector installed, or are you upgrading those as well??  I'm wondering if it is possible to easily replace the stock binding posts on KEF LS50 Metas.

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« Reply #69 on: 25 Oct 2020, 02:47 pm »
Cool! Do your speakers already have the tube connector installed, or are you upgrading those as well??  I'm wondering if it is possible to easily replace the stock binding posts on KEF LS50 Metas.

Yup! My XLS didn't originally have on my kit, but I did upgrade them a few weeks ago & i can easily use either connection or as needed.

Is imagine upgrading the LS50 with Tube connectors is possible, but i dont have any direct experience with them personally, it will likely require drilling out the binding posts to fit the tube connectors.

Alternatively, you can drill out a 2nd set of holes & have the binding posts connect to the tube connetors then connect to the crossover so you can easily switch back cand forth to compare the differences.

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« Reply #70 on: 26 Oct 2020, 12:13 am »
Hello,

Why would someone choose the 24 strand over the 16 strand cable?

Does it have something to do with high current amps or longer speaker runs?

Thanks

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« Reply #71 on: 26 Oct 2020, 06:41 am »
Why would someone choose the 24 strand over the 16 strand cable?
Larger cross section = less resistance lengthwise.

Does it have something to do with high current amps or longer speaker runs?
Potentially yes, but not necessarily. Esthetics also play a role.

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« Reply #72 on: 26 Oct 2020, 06:45 am »
Here is another question:
PTFE tubing is often used inside braided cables to lower their capacitance, right? Why would you opt for synthetic rope instead?

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« Reply #73 on: 26 Oct 2020, 02:12 pm »
Here is another question:
PTFE tubing is often used inside braided cables to lower their capacitance, right? Why would you opt for synthetic rope instead?
I believe Danny mentioned it in his latest video, being that the rope is more flexible than PTFE. But you can alway use your own preferred materials as you see fit, even if its none at all & simply compressed cable like rockball did with his personal set.

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« Reply #74 on: 27 Oct 2020, 02:15 am »
Looks like Danny sold out of his banana plugs so my order is on hold until more come in.  :(

Probably would have gone with spades if my Sprout had regular binding post, but it's just holes for banana plugs that are a little too big for tube connectors. But it'll be well worth the wait, & I'm excited for the A/B comparisons! :thumb:

Wig

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« Reply #75 on: 27 Oct 2020, 03:14 am »
Looks like Danny sold out of his banana plugs so my order is on hold until more come in.  :(

Probably would have gone with spades if my Sprout had regular binding post, but it's just holes for banana plugs that are a little too big for tube connectors. But it'll be well worth the wait, & I'm excited for the A/B comparisons! :thumb:

Depending on the length of the back order, may be a good idea to have the cabling shipped to start the tedious preparation for your bananas  :thumb:

Wig

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« Reply #76 on: 27 Oct 2020, 03:18 am »
Depending on the length of the back order, may be a good idea to have the cabling shipped to start the tedious preparation for your bananas  :thumb:

Wig

I'm not that worried about it, I'm pretty patient, plus with the holidays coming fast I've got enough to keep up with for the time being.

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« Reply #77 on: 5 Nov 2020, 01:48 am »
Is ESR tape applied to both ends of the speaker cable?

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« Reply #78 on: 5 Nov 2020, 03:35 am »
Is ESR tape applied to both ends of the speaker cable?

Yep, it's placed at the split on each end.

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« Reply #79 on: 5 Nov 2020, 02:50 pm »
I took some measurements a few days ago on a 12' cable with and without the rope added.

The rope did drop the capacitance of the cable.

Also we just got in a LOT more spades and banana plugs. So all is in stock and shipping now.