Best speakers under $3000 USD ??

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Freo-1

Re: Best speakers under $3000 USD ??
« Reply #20 on: 2 Jul 2020, 07:07 pm »
These might do it for you if they are not to big: https://www.tektondesign.com/double-impact.html

I heard the Double Impacts and purchased Tekton Ulfberhts because I was sold. I was comparing the Double Impacts with Klipsch LaScalas. Not only were the Double Impacts smoother with deeper bass but much easier to listen to for long periods of time.


Those do look interesting.  Would be nice to get real high end performance at that price point.

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Re: Best speakers under $3000 USD ??
« Reply #21 on: 2 Jul 2020, 10:42 pm »
I had the Tekton Enzo XLs on audition, a fantastic speaker that I could've easily kept, but then Eric put his Electron SE on sale and I jumped at them. Delivered yesterday … these are mini Double Impacts if you will. At almost 98db into 4 ohms should be a breeze as was the Enzo through my MEGAschino mkII. At the top of your $$$ scale though. I think well worth every penny also.

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Re: Best speakers under $3000 USD ??
« Reply #22 on: 2 Jul 2020, 11:01 pm »
Fritz Carbon 7 SE MK2 - $2650/pr
88 dB

Fritz Satori 7.5 - $3000/pr
2 way monitor 7.5 Satori 89 dB midbass &
Carbon Fiber tweeter 16H x 9W x 12D

http://www.fritzspeakers.com/sound.asp

I'll second Wayne. Call Fritz; demo the Carbon 7's in your home. You will be very hard pressed to do better at your price-point.

Have fun,

Jerry

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Re: Best speakers under $3000 USD ??
« Reply #23 on: 2 Jul 2020, 11:44 pm »
Feel like DIY'ing? https://www.facebook.com/groups/DIYLoudspeakerProjecPad/permalink/888214784867693/

Jeff Bagby's Helios could be the ticket.  It's about $2k for all of the parts which would leave $1k to build and finish the cabinet and crossover parts.  For some, I bet a cabinet could be built and finished after the crossover parts were purchased. 

Proof it plays loud
https://www.facebook.com/groups/DIYLoudspeakerProjecPad/permalink/802133073475865/



maty

Re: Best speakers under $3000 USD ??
« Reply #24 on: 3 Jul 2020, 08:46 am »
With the number of speakers on the market, I would rule out all those that did not have measurements, photos of the crossover and internal construction.

I would bet on existing DIY, made by yourself or on request. But always with a lot of measurements.

radarnyc

Re: Best speakers under $3000 USD ??
« Reply #25 on: 3 Jul 2020, 12:12 pm »
You could consider buying used too as used speakers are typically sold at 50% off or more. You’ll also get better SQ I’d you take a portion of your budget for room treatments.

WGH

Re: Best speakers under $3000 USD ??
« Reply #26 on: 3 Jul 2020, 03:19 pm »
With the number of speakers on the market, I would rule out all those that did not have measurements, photos of the crossover and internal construction.

Aye, there's the rub. Not many $3000 speakers have all three, it would be an embarrassment.

And how many can reach 110dB without toasting? It appears that reviewers are hesitant to burn up a loaner. An internet search didn't reveal much, all I found was a 110dB Alarm Siren Horn, maybe I'll try searching for 110dB speaker on youtube.

The only documented measurement I have found so far is Ron Brenay of New Record Day reviewing the Salk Veracity ST and yea, they are way over budget at $4695 per pair in a standard veneer. The Veracity ST is the smaller version of my HT2-TL. Before you ask, no, I am not going to see if my speakers can hit 110 dB.

https://newrecordday.com/salk-sound-veracity-st/

Ron's video has the Veracity ST hitting 102 dB on the Metallica Black album



khill

Re: Best speakers under $3000 USD ??
« Reply #27 on: 3 Jul 2020, 03:56 pm »
I just rolled in the ProAc DT8 and WOW!?!? You would have to find them used as they retail for 4k but these "little shits" sound better than my BEHEMOTH Double Impact's with my little Inspire SEP amp... and it's not even close!  Just sayin!




matevana

Re: Best speakers under $3000 USD ??
« Reply #28 on: 3 Jul 2020, 03:59 pm »
Highly recommend DIY as there are plenty of proven designs out there to emulate. Let your money go to upgraded drivers and crossover components and not some company's marketing costs. If woodworking is not your thing, you can purchase knock-down speaker cabinets that are CNC cut and go together effortlessly. Parts Express & Madisound are two excellent sources for DIY speaker building.

BTW, Open Baffle DIY and Cherry Amps are a magical combination. That's what I've been using for the past few years.

maty

Re: Best speakers under $3000 USD ??
« Reply #29 on: 3 Jul 2020, 04:00 pm »
Best floorstanders <£5k/$6k

-> https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/best-floorstanders-%C2%A35k-6k.14376/post-446796

Germany: Canton, Nubert (avoid Nubert amps) and...

Sweden: XTZ. 99 series are cheaper, 1600 €. You can update: Beryllium SEAS T29B00 with audiophile crossover (480 € x2) -> 2,560 €

    https://www.xtzsound.eu/product/99-36-flr
    https://www.xtzsound.eu/product/beryllium-upgrade
    http://www.seas.no/index.php?option...e&id=495:e0058-06-t29b001&catid=50&Itemid=360


PS: Canton is the largest European speaker manufacturer.

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Re: Best speakers under $3000 USD ??
« Reply #30 on: 3 Jul 2020, 07:59 pm »
  JBL A190. Not a dealer

charles

WGH

Re: Best speakers under $3000 USD ??
« Reply #31 on: 3 Jul 2020, 09:50 pm »
Today's Music Room Friday email has a pair of Vandersteen 2CE Signature II for $1,354.60.
I have bought from The Music Room a couple of times, everything was excellently and professionally packed. I consider them an A+ dealer.

https://tmraudio.com/speakers/floorstanding-speakers/vandersteen-2ce-signature-ii-floorstanding-speakers-black-pair-2-ce/?mc_cid=e9533acc33&mc_eid=fc47f331a4

The Music room has quite of few potential candidates from a Vandersteen 3A to Revel, Focal and Golden Ear - all under $3000.

Freo-1

Re: Best speakers under $3000 USD ??
« Reply #32 on: 3 Jul 2020, 10:13 pm »
Today's Music Room Friday email has a pair of Vandersteen 2CE Signature II for $1,354.60.
I have bought from The Music Room a couple of times, everything was excellently and professionally packed. I consider them an A+ dealer.

https://tmraudio.com/speakers/floorstanding-speakers/vandersteen-2ce-signature-ii-floorstanding-speakers-black-pair-2-ce/?mc_cid=e9533acc33&mc_eid=fc47f331a4

The Music room has quite of few potential candidates from a Vandersteen 3A to Revel, Focal and Golden Ear - all under $3000.


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RonN5

Re: Best speakers under $3000 USD ??
« Reply #33 on: 3 Jul 2020, 11:09 pm »
How many of the speakers mentioned so far can hit 110 dB peaks at the listening position and also be considered low distortion at that level?

charmerci

Re: Best speakers under $3000 USD ??
« Reply #34 on: 3 Jul 2020, 11:34 pm »
How many of the speakers mentioned so far can hit 110 dB peaks at the listening position and also be considered low distortion at that level?


Well, if it's loud you want, the JTR Neosis 212's are your ticket to hearing damage!

RonN5

Re: Best speakers under $3000 USD ??
« Reply #35 on: 4 Jul 2020, 01:05 am »
AmpDesigner said in the first post... loud and low distortion.

WGH

Re: Best speakers under $3000 USD ??
« Reply #36 on: 4 Jul 2020, 01:16 am »
How many of the speakers mentioned so far can hit 110 dB peaks at the listening position and also be considered low distortion at that level?

AmpDesigner is right, 6" drivers ain't gonna cut it.

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charmerci

Re: Best speakers under $3000 USD ??
« Reply #37 on: 4 Jul 2020, 01:30 am »
AmpDesigner said in the first post... loud and low distortion.


Yeah, I'm always surprised that people want perfection at low price points. Seriously, you simply have to compromise on something if not more than one.

Tyson

Re: Best speakers under $3000 USD ??
« Reply #38 on: 4 Jul 2020, 01:36 am »
Klipsch Forte III will get you there.  Not the Heresy (not enough bass) or the Cornwall (too aggressive sounding). 

Forte III's are 99db efficient so they'll hit 110db at the lister spot with ease.  They also go down to about 40hz with power.

And if you're feeling REALLY adventurous, you can upgrade them - https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=166996.0

Freo-1

Re: Best speakers under $3000 USD ??
« Reply #39 on: 4 Jul 2020, 01:39 am »
Would look at K-Horns.  The updated mid and tweeter with a modified crossover can sound pretty good. 


You do need two corners.