New King STM owner

rockn · « **on:** 27 Apr 2020, 06:30 pm »

Hey gang I’m new to DAC! just got this over the weekend after doing my research and reading many posts on ac. I must say I see what all the fuss is about, this is one tiny audio marvel! This is replacing my Wyred 4 Sound mono mAmps which I was very satisfied with. I’ll have some questions later.

Thanks Bob

Wind Chaser · « **Reply #1 on:** 27 Apr 2020, 07:14 pm »

Congratulations Bob, you have one very sweet little amplifier there!

What’s the rest of your system and room like?

rockn · « **Reply #2 on:** 27 Apr 2020, 07:28 pm »

Thank u! Rest of my system:
Schiit Saga pre
Denafrips Ares ll dac
Bluesound Node 2 streamer
Dynaudio Special 40 speakers
Rel S2 sub
Pro-Ject audio turn table

Wind Chaser · « **Reply #3 on:** 27 Apr 2020, 08:05 pm »

Nice, I take the Cherry is okay with the Dynaudio, as in not lacking power?

I'm guessing your speakers are about 18" off the side walls and about 30" off the front wall?

rockn · « **Reply #4 on:** 27 Apr 2020, 08:21 pm »

Not at all, plenty of power in reserve and yes good guess on the measurements! The Dyns are great at retrieving micro details, lots of air and separation and the Cherry amp just brings more of that.

First day I ran balanced out of my dac into the Cherry, no pre...incredible! I would prefer this but I’m lazy and missed my remote so hooked up the pre and still sounds amazing....

Wind Chaser · « **Reply #5 on:** 27 Apr 2020, 08:46 pm »

I hear you on the remote. I have pretty decent DAC with a remote VC but I also recently added the entry level Cherry DAC. Like the Cherry amps, the Cherry DAC is pretty amazing too ... and even more amazing it only cost a fraction of my other DAC.

Have you tried pulling your speakers further out into the room?

rockn · « **Reply #6 on:** 27 Apr 2020, 08:58 pm »

Yep I’ve read up on the dac and most of the rest of the DAC line of products. I’m always looking try new things...what’s a remote VC? Voice control?

And no haven’t tried pulling them out, mostly side to side but I might try. Always looking for that sweet spot to lock into...

rockn · « **Reply #7 on:** 27 Apr 2020, 09:10 pm »

Well that made a nice improvement! There about 45 inches from the back all to front of speaker, Thanks

rockn · « **Reply #8 on:** 27 Apr 2020, 09:11 pm »

Back wall😀

AvsFan · « **Reply #9 on:** 27 Apr 2020, 10:53 pm »

Quote from: rockn on 27 Apr 2020, 08:21 pm

Not at all, plenty of power in reserve and yes good guess on the measurements! The Dyns are great at retrieving micro details, lots of air and separation and the Cherry amp just brings more of that.

First day I ran balanced out of my dac into the Cherry, no pre...incredible! I would prefer this but I’m lazy and missed my remote so hooked up the pre and still sounds amazing....

Yeah, with the KING STM, you should have PLENTY of clean power!
I had the 48v STM and it almost got me to where I wanted but not quite. I have Magnepan LRS's, which are VERY demanding and hard to drive! Tommy and I talked about moving up to the KING, then to a 2-CHerry, then we finally decided on his top of the line Golden Cherry monoblocks. In heaven with this combo! Tommy's electronics are high end! Not high priced. They're just stupid good!

And I had his DAC DAC 1HS and I had the EXACT same experience with the STM. When I went DAC straight to the STM and used the volume control on the STM!!!!! Holy smokes! It was so good! I mean a very noticeable difference. Switching back to my pre-amp for volume control still sounds spectacular, but not as good as going straight to the STM. The tradeoffs are convenience for sound quality.
Now owning the Golden Cherries, I have to use volume control but am getting a manual, balanced, passive preamp sent to me to try to interfere with the signal as little as possible. Should be as close to a straight pass through signal from source to amps. Here is my set up with STM and now.

AvsFan · « **Reply #10 on:** 27 Apr 2020, 10:59 pm »

Here is a better picture.

J Payton · « **Reply #11 on:** 27 Apr 2020, 11:39 pm »

How are you running the Rel Sub without a some sort of active crossover?

This has been one of the reasons I haven't made a STM purchase.

If your solution works I may consider again.

rockn · « **Reply #12 on:** 28 Apr 2020, 12:25 am »

Wow AV, I bet that sounds as impressive as it looks. Very nice!

AvsFan · « **Reply #13 on:** 28 Apr 2020, 12:39 am »

Quote from: rockn on 28 Apr 2020, 12:25 am

Wow AV, I bet that sounds as impressive as it looks. Very nice!

It brings a smile to my face. Still have the HS2 on the way and my pre-amp. Two subs and will be set.

Your system is superb as well. I was REALLY considering those Dynaudio 40’s. I had the Saga you have as well. Real nice. Denafrips AresII is a very coveted DAC right now and bet it sounds superb. And of course the REL is one of the most musical subs you can buy. Well done all the way around!

rockn · « **Reply #14 on:** 28 Apr 2020, 12:39 am »

https://relsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004486607-Class-D-Amp-Connection-Methods

J Payton,
Read this link, this is how I hook up my Rel

AvsFan · « **Reply #15 on:** 28 Apr 2020, 12:41 am »

Quote from: J Payton on 27 Apr 2020, 11:39 pm

How are you running the Rel Sub without a some sort of active crossover?

This has been one of the reasons I haven't made a STM purchase.

If your solution works I may consider again.

I am going to assume by using the crossover on the REL?

rockn · « **Reply #16 on:** 28 Apr 2020, 12:44 am »

AV, thank u sir, I have a feeling my Cherry adventure is just beginning...

rockn · « **Reply #17 on:** 28 Apr 2020, 12:46 am »

Yes, using the High Level connection

morganc · « **Reply #18 on:** 28 Apr 2020, 01:25 am »

Quote from: rockn on 27 Apr 2020, 07:28 pm

Thank u! Rest of my system:
Schiit Saga pre
Denafrips Ares ll dac
Bluesound Node 2 streamer
Dynaudio Special 40 speakers
Rel S2 sub
Pro-Ject audio turn table

Nice system Bob! Glad that you're enjoying that fine Amp!

rockn · « **Reply #19 on:** 28 Apr 2020, 01:30 am »

Thanks Morgan🙂