Switching from tubes to Cherry -- benefits

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Re: Switching from tubes to Cherry -- benefits
« Reply #20 on: 6 Nov 2019, 08:20 pm »
Honestly... I’d say every move has the potential to change the sound... including angling in out up down and moving further apart and together.. as well moving out from walls. For some speakers, the tweaking can result in big changes... for others not so much... the room usually matters a lot as part of the final tuning.
It definitely makes a huge difference with Magnepan 1.7i speakers, especially the distance from the back wall.

I use REW and a calibrated mic to get an idea of the results, and moving the listening position usually makes as much of a difference (or more) as moving the speakers.

SET Man

Re: Switching from tubes to Cherry -- benefits
« Reply #21 on: 8 Nov 2019, 03:55 am »
I know this much, these amps are far better than all of the SET amps I have tried over the years.

Buddy, I dare you to try a Maraschino. I bet it will blow your mind. It will mark a turning point in your audio journey.  :wink:

Hey!
 
   I see, is Maraschino the amp you are using regularly in your system right now?

   My audio journey is pretty done. I've heard so many systems over the years, both in stores, shows and in some of AC members home. And I've tried a few audio pieces from local members here who were kind enough to loan them to me to try. Well, at the end of the day, I have no problem coming home to my system. Yes, I've heard some systems that better than my system, but not in every way. I know there are flaws in my system but those flaws doesn't bother me, the strengths of my system out weighted the flaws to me.

   But sure! If someone in here NYC area have Marachino and kind enough to loan it to me to try for a few days. I will give it a shot, if I like it than I might have to get one. If not then well... I don't know back to enjoy music on my old system I guess.

Buddy

   

RonN5

Re: Switching from tubes to Cherry -- benefits
« Reply #22 on: 8 Nov 2019, 03:32 pm »
Last night I was at a concert...not quite an orchestra...mostly brass woodwinds, percussion, piano, stand up bass...about 100 pieces in all.  My seats were about 20 rows back, center and at about stage level.  The music was an amalgamation of classics including Harlem Nocturne, Anchors Aweigh, Malaguena, and Seventy-Six Trombones...to name a few.

The sound was really good, which led me to trying to describe what I was hearing...the words that really seemed to fit were...."clarity, power, dynamic, captivating, and this is kind of strange...perfect tone...instruments sounded right".  Never once would I have used or even thought of words like "harsh, soundstage, definition, accuracy, euphonic, and frequency response".

Let's face it, it is really hard to reproduce the live music sound in our homes.  Usually, the room screws with the sound and after trying multiple speakers, multiple locations, room treatments, and different electronics...we maybe find something that sounds good....to us...but it is usually not the same as live music....but it is probably enjoyable none the less.

I'm fortunate...I have a pretty good room which makes the speaker part of the equation a little easier.  It wasn't until I put the 2Cherry in my system that I began to realize how important clarity, tonal accuracy and powerful dynamics were actually producing a more lifelike sound....and in my case, a more lifelike sound with clarity and tone is more enjoyable than anything I have achieved to date.

Wind Chaser

Re: Switching from tubes to Cherry -- benefits
« Reply #23 on: 9 Nov 2019, 07:34 pm »
Hey!
 
   I see, is Maraschino the amp you are using regularly in your system right now?

Yes indeed! After a series of SET amps EL34, EL84, KT88, 2A3, 300b etc the Maraschino’s (small mono blocks) are the only amps I use in my system.  :D :D   I get all the SET benefits and goodness without any of the SET setbacks.  :thumb:

I’ve been using these amps - exclusively - for over two years now and I have zero interest in returning to tube amplification.  :green:

SET Man

Re: Switching from tubes to Cherry -- benefits
« Reply #24 on: 9 Nov 2019, 07:39 pm »
Yes indeed! After a series of SET amps EL34, EL84, KT88, 2A3, 300b etc the Maraschino’s (small mono blocks) are the only amps I use in my system.  :D :D   I get all the SET benefits and goodness without any of the SET setbacks.  :thumb:

I’ve been using these amps - exclusively - for over two years now and I have zero interest in returning to tube amplification.  :green:

Hey!

   Well, good for you and congratulation.

Buddy

Wind Chaser

Re: Switching from tubes to Cherry -- benefits
« Reply #25 on: 9 Nov 2019, 08:06 pm »
Thank you, Buddy. I hope someday your ears get a taste of 21 century technology. What the iPhone is to a rotary phone, the Maraschino is to tubes.  :wink:

SET Man

Re: Switching from tubes to Cherry -- benefits
« Reply #26 on: 9 Nov 2019, 08:50 pm »
Thank you, Buddy. I hope someday your ears get a taste of 21 century technology. What the iPhone is to a rotary phone, the Maraschino is to tubes.  :wink:

Hey!

   I have some, but just didn't work out. I'll go back to my old early 20th Century techs system for now. Again congratulation on your system. And I will now leave this thread for good.

Buddy

PS

   I don't have rotary phone but I do have a 1902 Victor Type E Talking Machine, it is a beauty. It is a hoot to listen to acoustical recording 78 of Enrico Caruso's "La donna e mobile" from 1908 on it.

Freo-1

Re: Switching from tubes to Cherry -- benefits
« Reply #27 on: 9 Nov 2019, 09:45 pm »
Couple of thoughts:


1) I have had much the same type of revelation using Devialet Expert amps as reported with the Cherry amps.   The fact that the DAC is integrated into the amp is part of the reason for this success.  If one owns a speaker supported by speaker active matching, further improvement ca also be realized.


2) Regarding speakers, the speaker types optimized for tube playback can wind up sounding "better" with tube amplification than any SS amp.  Granted, with the vast majority of speakers, the extra power provided by the SS amp will improve playback, but not always.