NEW ZenWave PSR-14 UPOCC Silver Ribbon Power Cable

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Re: NEW ZenWave PS14 UPOCC Silver Ribbon Power Cable
« Reply #40 on: 19 Jul 2019, 06:35 am »
Good to hear!  :D

I notice an increase in clarity by damping the locking barrel of the WBT plugs too. If you look at Furutech's lineup they have some connectors that are exactly the same with the exception of a brass vs stainless steel and carbon fiber body... the electrical contacts, or "guts" of the plug are the same. Examples are the FP-108 vs CF-102 RCA plugs and the FP vs CF series XLR plugs, then the FI-28 vs FI-50 AC plugs. In all cases the stainless/carbon version of the connector sounds clearer and more refined. While I can't machine a stainless steel locking barrel yet, adding the carbon fiber works well and looks cool. The standard WBT 0102 Ag is arguably the best RCA plug in the world, the carbon fiber damper makes it just a little better. :)

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« Reply #41 on: 21 Jul 2019, 05:30 am »
WOW !
just received the PS14 and connected it to  my Tube pre-amp. For me the best time to listen is between 11 -am and 6 pm as my electricity is pretty clean ( sol;ar)my noises harvesters  don't blink at all .

I alway believe in the first impression before I get confused with too many listening sessions . Any way  I am very impressed with the Bass ! clean and very tight  definitely lower noise floor ! the next impression I get is the mid's & the high's   very detailed and sonically very pleasing , in  most cases it is the small improvements that matter but with this PS-14 PC the improvements are very clear , the cable seems to be fast ? which is fine with me or maybe it is just my subjective impression
more to come later in a few days. :D :popcorn:
Update:
I had to send back the power cable to Dave as the ground pin was broken when I received it ,( although I used it with the ground broken ) Dave sent a another cable , which I believe is 2 meters long , The above impression still  stands , the best bang for the buck I got was with my pre-amp and now followed by using it with my QuickSilver ( tube) HP amp which is basically made for Studio record monitoring . found more Bass , clean bass heard some thing on Quboz streaming I may have  not picked up before but this time it  was" in face "type listening very detailed crisp no distortion, I like the new Furutech NCF F1-50 AC connectors ( expensive !)I think they add value to this wire as well as listening experience 

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Re: NEW ZenWave PS14 UPOCC Silver Ribbon Power Cable
« Reply #42 on: 24 Jul 2019, 02:29 pm »
Thanks very much Asghar!  :thumb:

Yes, FI-50 NCF are pricey but a big part of a power cable, the NCF plugs are so much better vs anything else I think this cable needs them. Overall price on the PS14 is amazingly low compared to Siltech Triple Crown though! The same manufacturer makes the UPOCC silver wire and the plugs are exactly the same.   

I also agree bass is a standout with this cable, as well as the new silver ribbon speaker cable. Bass and overall dynamics are awesome!  :D

Cable will be going to pursuitofnow shortly.

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Re: NEW ZenWave PS14 UPOCC Silver Ribbon Power Cable
« Reply #43 on: 25 Jul 2019, 02:13 pm »
I'm looking forward to trying out this power cable!

Did you say new silver ribbon speaker cables? Anymore info on these? How do they compare to your other offerings?

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Re: NEW ZenWave PS14 UPOCC Silver Ribbon Power Cable
« Reply #44 on: 26 Jul 2019, 12:26 am »
I'm looking forward to trying out this power cable!

Did you say new silver ribbon speaker cables? Anymore info on these? How do they compare to your other offerings?

I look forward to see what you think!

And yes, the ribbon works really well as a speaker cable too. It's close to the same cable but the runs of ribbon are arranged a little differently to optimize the balance of capacitance and inductance. You can certainly hear some similarities in character between the power and speaker cable... fast, dynamic, great bass performance. In this area it's better than any other cable I've ever tested, including my own. Tone is slightly different, my preference varies from track to track. The ribbon is slightly more resolving, not a huge difference but it's a bit clearer. It's also just a bit less forgiving too, you can hear flaws that the silver/gold covers a little more. The overall "fast", unrestrained sound, dynamics and bass performance of the ribbon are better vs the silver/gold cable on every track... so with the exception of some acoustic/vocal tracks without much bass or demanding dynamics where I might enjoy the tone of the gold more, I prefer the ribbon and it's also much less expensive for the same gauge.

My silver/gold speaker cable is really labor intensive and expensive to make by hand out of small gauge round wire. The ribbon is less expensive to make in terms of both material and labor. The only downside is stripping the insulation off the ends of the ribbon is difficult, I'll have to make a custom tool for it eventually. ZenWave is all about offering top-end cables for at least semi-sane prices, and the ribbon power and speaker cables definitely fit in with that... The 14g ribbon SC will start under $2k, for those with amps next to speakers. :)

So what it's looking like going forward, my silver/gold speaker cables will only be made in 20g version for high efficiency single drivers and compression drivers. It works amazingly well for this application and in 20g isn't overly expensive. The ribbon will be offered in 14 and 11 gauge, It looks a lot like the power cable but is unshielded. It is covered with pure, unbleached cotton batting covered in teflon tape, then a layer of cotton techflex, then an outer jacket of regular techflex, the same used for the power cable. With the cotton under the outer jacket it's not as shiny as the power cable. :)


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Re: NEW ZenWave PS14 UPOCC Silver Ribbon Power Cable
« Reply #45 on: 26 Jul 2019, 02:54 am »
Thanks so much for the information, Dave. Sounds like a great value. I'm between the SL, SMSG, and now these for my next upgrade. I have the SL (17g) and SMSG (20g) internally wired in my Omega Super 3 HO XRS.

Any chance you'll have some 8' silver speaker cables to try out?  :)
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Re: NEW ZenWave PS14 UPOCC Silver Ribbon Power Cable
« Reply #46 on: 26 Jul 2019, 05:22 pm »

DAVE,
When will your website be updated to include/inform about these ribbons?


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Re: NEW ZenWave PS14 UPOCC Silver Ribbon Power Cable
« Reply #47 on: 26 Jul 2019, 05:36 pm »
DAVE,
When will your website be updated to include/inform about these ribbons?

I've given up on my current website... Some things never worked properly and last time I tried doing some updates it wouldn't allow me to modify a page, it erased the entire thing, probably because versions of plugins are out of date. I tried to update everything, but I've given up on it and hired someone else to make a website that works properly as far as ordering, handles international orders, displays pics properly, SEO, analytics, etc... none of that stuff works on my current site right now and the guy that built it did nothing last time I paid him... he's too busy with his own site and life to do what he agreed to do, and was paid to do. 

I've started on the new site already, I've compiled a list of products and prices, I've taken a bunch of new pics, and hope to have it done in a couple months. Until then, I'll post info here and I have another subforum on another forum  about to go live.

My current website is out of date on a lot of things, but money and effort are best put into a fresh start at this point.

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Re: NEW ZenWave PS14 UPOCC Silver Ribbon Power Cable
« Reply #48 on: 28 Jul 2019, 10:50 pm »
First Impression with the PS14:

Wow this cable is pretty amazing! I've always been open to power cables making a difference and have a system that has allowed me to hear differences between stock pc's and good copper/teflon pc's but never experienced silver. This is like a component upgrade. I'm getting much better clarity and especially in the lower regions. Bass is much tighter and deeper. Overall the music is much more animated. Instruments coming out into the room even more.

I plan to try the PS14 in other components but the first place I started was with a Decware ZROCK 2 with 25th anniversary mods. The ZR2 is the stage right before my amps with the analog and digital sources feeding it. I was very surprised how a silver pc affected this line stage (eq).

After a few more days I plan to try it in the phono stage (Decware ZP3). I can already see wanting three of these cables, ZR2, ZP3, and the ZTPRE I have on order. Maybe even the 11ga for the monoblocks. Whew I’m definitely getting carried away… that’s like $7k in power cables. Based on what I’m hearing though, I know that will be the journey.

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« Reply #49 on: 29 Jul 2019, 02:05 am »
^ amazing. Can't wait for you to report back once you try it on the two pre's

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Re: NEW ZenWave PS14 UPOCC Silver Ribbon Power Cable
« Reply #50 on: 29 Jul 2019, 11:26 pm »
Thanks very much for your review, pursuitofnow!   :thumb:

I'm very happy the cable works as planned... or to be totally honest better than expected!  :green:

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« Reply #51 on: 3 Aug 2019, 06:52 pm »
I finally convinced myself last night to pull the cable from the ZROCK2 and try it in the ZP3 phonostage. It was a hard thing to do because it sounds so good in that stage and has both digital and analog paths going through it.

This cable (and maybe other silver PCs, I don't know haven't tried) just sounds amazing and adds level of clarity, quietness, and detail that has to be experienced. I truly encourage anyone skeptical of power cables making a difference to try this cable. What do you have to lose? Well, ok maybe a few thousand dollars. Because I'm willing to bet after hearing it, you like me can't imagine not having at least one of these cables in the system. I get it, it is a lot of money, but this cable has me figuring out ways to gather the dough.

With the PS14 in the ZP3 phonostage, I heard extended low and top end, more clarity, tighter bass, wider and deeper sound stage. Pretty much all the things that I heard in the ZROCK2 but with more presence. As if I moved closer to the stage or musicians.

I'm really impressed and again would recommend anyone skeptical to just try it :)

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Re: NEW ZenWave PS14 UPOCC Silver Ribbon Power Cable
« Reply #52 on: 13 Aug 2019, 12:45 am »
Thanks very much for your review, pursuitofnow!

I just got a note back from Jay at Audiobacon, his views are similar to most here and he's been working on a big power cable review, which will include the PSR-14.

Oh yeah, the name of the silver ribbon power cable is now PSR-14 with a PSR-11 11 gauge cable to come. The speaker cables will be SSR-14 and SSR-11, and interconnect will be DSR.

And, the demo is on it's way to Ernie, then Burt is up next. Please let me know if anyone else would like to demo the cable!  :thumb:

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« Reply #53 on: 14 Aug 2019, 01:06 am »
 Haha Ernie and Burt are next!  :lol:

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Re: NEW ZenWave PSR-14 UPOCC Silver Ribbon Power Cable
« Reply #54 on: 18 Aug 2019, 06:59 pm »
Haha Ernie and Burt are next!  :lol:

Now if we can just get the cookie monster to drop by...  :lol:


The Audiobacon review is out and I'm happy to say the ZenWave PSR-14 won their Best In Class award!

https://audiobacon.net/2019/08/17/27-audiophile-power-cables-reviewed/21/