The Absolute 2018 RMAF Show Reports

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« Reply #1 on: 15 Oct 2018, 11:35 pm »
Thanks for the strings TB... I will have to find more details on this ABX test performed by Thorsten Loesch of Abbington Musical Research and IFI.
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« Reply #2 on: 16 Oct 2018, 12:09 am »
''Loudspeakers Under $20K'' its a car price.

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« Reply #3 on: 16 Oct 2018, 12:37 am »
''Loudspeakers Under $20K'' its a car price.

Many loudspeakers over $20K nowadays.

Many, many cars too.

The high price market is doing very well.   

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« Reply #4 on: 16 Oct 2018, 12:58 am »
Many loudspeakers over $20K nowadays.

Many, many cars too.

The high price market is doing very well.
Hi Tom, there is no merit is a expensive great sound loudspeaker, anyone can do it to OEM, what custumers want is a inexpensive great sound speaker.

In this price range I dont need a audio magazine to shopping.

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« Reply #5 on: 16 Oct 2018, 01:07 am »
Hi Tom, there is no merit is a expensive great sound loudspeaker, anyone can do it to OEM, what custumers want is a inexpensive great sound speaker.

The ELAC Adante AS-61 monitor, $2500/pr, received great reviews again from the show.  Highly praised in several reviews. 

Even cheaper, the Vanatoo Transparent One Encore at $599/pr also got a good review.

I've heard $40K speakers which I didn't like, so there's no guarantee of an expensive speaker sounding great. 

My experience has been that the best sounding speaker (to my ears) at $1000/pr has not been as good as the best sounding speaker (to my ears) at $4000/pr which hasn't been as good as the best sounding speaker at $10,000/pr, and so forth.  So to my ears, if I spend a lot more, I generally find speakers which I like better.  Not all more expensive speakers are better but I can usually find a few which are better.

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« Reply #6 on: 16 Oct 2018, 01:41 am »
I've heard $40K speakers which I didn't like, so there's no guarantee of an expensive speaker sounding great.
I have see that speaker since I started buy audio mags in the 1980s, they are the same til today:
Multi driver, 2 or 3 ways, complex xover,
Mono pole, emit sound only to front,
Most are pocket size, need stand,
Low sensitivity 90dB or less, hard to drive,
Sells through dealers, hi retail price,
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« Reply #7 on: 16 Oct 2018, 02:37 am »
''Loudspeakers Under $20K'' its a car price.

Yeah, to TAS that's a 'budget' speaker.
I read partway through the show report. Loudspeakers costing $72K, $87K, $130K. I think of that not as 'high end', but 'deep end'. At some point it's about conspicuous consumption more than music.

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« Reply #8 on: 17 Oct 2018, 01:17 am »
Was it The Absolute Sound or Stereophile that talked about a system costing over a million dollars?

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« Reply #9 on: 17 Oct 2018, 01:20 am »
Both

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« Reply #10 on: 17 Oct 2018, 01:32 am »
There are an estimated 45,000 Americans now worth over $50M.  If I were one of them, I might be tempted to spend $1M on an audio system, if that system were audio nirvana for me.  Who knows how many people from across the world have $50M+?  High-end audio companies market heavily to Asian and European markets.

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« Reply #11 on: 18 Oct 2018, 01:51 pm »
Yeah, to TAS that's a 'budget' speaker.
I read partway through the show report. Loudspeakers costing $72K, $87K, $130K. I think of that not as 'high end', but 'deep end'. At some point it's about conspicuous consumption more than music.

I think you would be hard pressed to find a better speaker than the JBL M2 for pure SQ. $20K for a pair, including amps (that makes it a bargain comparatively speaking):

https://www.soundandvision.com/content/jbl-m2-tower-speaker-best-jbl-ever