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Quote from: MttBsh on 3 Sep 2018, 01:59 am To our new member Mr. Husky, with gifted curiosity. Suggestion: stop thinking about it, go take a nice long walk. You'll soon realize how ridiculous it is to get stressed out about strands of speaker wire.Twitch said---LOL, exactly !Twitch, i think you are assuming he or others have the same sensory experience you might have.Listeners fatigue for some of us, is a dam nasty experience, after dropping a grand on a product if he, or some other person hears or experiences something you don't, why not show your grace and curiosity by letting them explain their experience in a comfortable setting, rather then telling them to take a walk, which is something we tell dogs to do. OR, if you can not existentially reconcile someones else's experience,why not you take a walk, look at the stars, smell the earth and all her Majesty, I think we all would benefit from taking more walks. Love the people TwitchGrace Ruby
I am going to pretend the two pages of 'stuff' between the op question and my response does not exist.The first point is to cover a slight misconception of "because the power flows on the outside of the wire". That is a partially correct and partially incorrect idea. There is complex math of exactly how the electromagnetic wave move in a wire.. much on the surface, but some depth which is FREQUENCY DEPENDENT, and AMPERAGE DEPENDENT, More power, lower frequency/deeper. Less power, higher frequency/more on surface.. and the deeper, slightly slower. There are also math formulas for how deep the current flows. Basically the higher the frequency, the more it stays on the surface. Why Silver plated copper works great for VIDEO and digital signals... (higher frequencies).For audio frequencies the whole skin effect is not very important. Other factors such as signal jumping between strands, type of insulation, wire geometry, and wire purity matter more.I would suggest some folks prefer solid core because the specific bit of wire they tried, sounds better in THEIR setup than the exact other stranded wire they tried. Now maybe if they had tried some other stranded wire, that would be even better. But as it is, they found a solution for them, in their system they like.Naturally, many folks think they discovered a 'universal fact' and proceed to 'tell the World' the 'truth' as they discovered it. So we get notions that 'Solid is better than stranded' and others wonder WHY??? The fact is, it is all relative, and one solid wire, or another type of stranded wre.. may or may not perform better IN A SPECIFIC SYSTEM than a different wire.I ihope this hopes in some tiny way.[/quote)ELIZABETH FOR PRESIDENT its a lot to cover when considering all the effects and out comes, that was a better job then i have seen in a while. Grace Ruby
what the hell did you have to drink tonight ??????
I just opened a lovely col solare!
In the eddy current demo linked to by GRACE RUBY, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkYqfiOVOVY I find the conclusions confusing. I think Roger Sheker, chief engineer at Audience AV, suggests that the conclusion to be drawn is that low mass conductors are thus demonstrated to be desirable. I also think low mass conductors are the way to go, but what I think is demonstrated here is that proximity of the signal carrying conductor to another conductor is a significant factor. Finally, Audience seem to be claiming to have been the first to go with low mass solid core conductors. If I am not mistaken Denis Morecroft was earlier and took things much further, with all the conductors in his amplifiers and preamps arranged in 3D to be optimally separated and in plastic cases, By the way, you might enjoy this thread on a Dutch site where Dennis Morecroft is a guest answering some questions pertinent to this topic:https://www.htforum.nl/yabbse/index.php?topic=91138.0
Burt, keep in mind Husky started this thread with regards to speaker wire. I'm kinda thinking your comment is with regards to IC's ?
Solid core is ONE wire, not strands, inside one jacket. Stranded is multiple strands .whether they are all the same size or different thicknesses, in one jacket. (Kimber Kable boasts of multi size strands in most of their cables)A 'variation' is where small wires each are insulated but bundled and act as one wire. That is called litz construction. It particularly removes the intermittent jumping from one strand to another (but is harder to work with when terminating!) Cardas uses Litz construction in cables.There is some confusion as several marketing blurbs call fatter individual wires IN A MULTI STRAND 'solid'.. But that is marketing the notion that 'solid' is better more than actual reasons.(though in power cords, it does seem to be better sounding..) ((Though the PS Audio have big solid conductors and they are not state of the art ... anymore))
OK, I think that is what I referenced / was thinking. So basically its semantics and really, most every cable is stranded in some form it seems
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