Super 7 Flat Packs.....

Captainhemo · « **on:** 3 Aug 2018, 11:09 pm »

Decided to split this from the "Official Super 7 thread....

After working onthe top section S7 baffles,/ wings, we started thinking about a full cabinet flat pack. took some time to get this all fit up but it came out good .

We're looking at 10 pieces & 18 dowels per cabinet. Everything is located and aligned via dowels. These would / will use the same baffle we designed for the S7 upper section posted in the above mentioned thread ( I'll re-post some of that info here at some point). The cabinets should be slightly shorter than the originals, , the bracing has been slightly beefed up to match what we do in our servo sub flalt packs , both servo subs are facing forward, did up a new base etc for a bit of a different look. Basic kits will use all Medex (1.25", 1", and .75") .

Here are a few pics:

Wings are 1.25" Medex with large 1" roundovers on outer edge, small .25" roundover on inner edge to match inset for grill frames.

An up close pic of the front and rear small, .25" grill insets (rear side is for the subs, could esilly mount a grill on rear of upper bafle as well)

Lots of dowel holes !

All components obviously have corresponding dowel holes

base is also 1.25" Medex with a nic e little rounded step to match cabinet rouindovers, something a bit differentfrom the norm.

jay

PDR · « **Reply #1 on:** 3 Aug 2018, 11:20 pm »

Outstanding......I'm glad I already have the servos in a H frame.
Will lesson the "try to convince the wify I deserve this" thing....

Tyson · « **Reply #2 on:** 3 Aug 2018, 11:56 pm »

Hawt!! So glad that others will soon get to experience the awesomeness that is the Super 7.

richidoo · « **Reply #3 on:** 4 Aug 2018, 12:20 am »

That looks fantastic! Congrats on a great job!

What is Medex?

Will it use electronic crossover or all passive?
Is there compensation planned for the Z offset between woofer and mids?

Thanks!

Captainhemo · « **Reply #4 on:** 4 Aug 2018, 12:28 am »

Quote from: richidoo on 4 Aug 2018, 12:20 am

That looks fantastic! Congrats on a great job!

What is Medex?

Will it use electronic crossover or all passive?
Is there compensation planned for the Z offset between woofer and mids?

Thanks!

The Super 7's use a passive network for the upper (Neo3 in waveguide/neo 10's) section. The lower sub section in each is a pair of the gR SW12 16FR or 08's driven with the fully adjustable Rythmik A370PEQ (active).

Quote from: PDR on 3 Aug 2018, 11:20 pm

Outstanding......I'm glad I already have the servos in a H frame.
Will lesson the "try to convince the wify I deserve this" thing....

maybe a road trip to the Okanagan at some point, once we get a pair built out it'd be cool for you to hear them

jay

2bigears · « **Reply #5 on:** 4 Aug 2018, 12:54 am »

dam nice Jay. This looks like a keeper. Do you have kits ready or soon ? Are the driver kits ready ? Are the X-overs an easy build ?
Is there an all in $$ figured out yet ?

Looks great on the wood pac you did.

ebag4 · « **Reply #6 on:** 4 Aug 2018, 01:07 am »

That looks great Jay, I really like the base detail. Looking forward to seeing the projects this inspires.

Best,
Ed

mresseguie · « **Reply #7 on:** 4 Aug 2018, 01:16 am »

Quote from: richidoo on 4 Aug 2018, 12:20 am

That looks fantastic! Congrats on a great job!

What is Medex?

Thanks!

MEDEX:

No added formaldehyde resin system
Especially suitable in interior applications where moisture is a concern, Medex does succeed in the 6 cycle accelerated aging test
Superior physical properties to standard MDF. Truly high performance screwholding and MOR capabilities, among others
Pre-consumer recycled wood content
FSC® Mix Credit Certified - available option
Potential LEED® 2009 credit support: MRc4, 5, 7 & IEQc4.4
Potential LEED® v4 credit support: Materials & Resources and Indoor Environmental Quality
Meets CARB ATCM 93120 Phase 2 emission limits - CARB NAF Exempt
Third party certification - SCS, ECC
CHPS Compliant - California section 01350 approved
Limitations: Medex is not suitable for structural applications, exterior siding or exterior trim

http://www.roseburg.com/Product/medex/

Captainhemo · « **Reply #8 on:** 4 Aug 2018, 01:19 am »

Quote from: 2bigears on 4 Aug 2018, 12:54 am

dam nice Jay. This looks like a keeper. Do you have kits ready or soon ? Are the driver kits ready ? Are the X-overs an easy build ?
Is there an all in $$ figured out yet ?
Looks great on the wood pac you did.

Hey Pascal
the networks won't be an overly difficult built, should be fairly simple actually. They are not finalized, I have to get Danny that final prototype of the upper baffle.
I am not sure on flat pack pricing or how we're going to do this at the start.... we may try and sell a couple pairs of "pre-order" flat packs , would be nice to know there are some spoken for before committing to programming and cutting.

jay

kingdeezie · « **Reply #9 on:** 4 Aug 2018, 01:34 am »

Can the flat packs be finished in any way? Would like to get a pair of Super 7s eventually, but I have no way to finish the flat packs in any meaningful way.

2bigears · « **Reply #10 on:** 4 Aug 2018, 02:10 am »

always always always been interested in this speaker. Your amp can be micro which saves.
Standing by,, you price setters be nice to us poor folk now, ha . Thanks Jay,, Fires again in the Okie ?
Dam ..

Captainhemo · « **Reply #11 on:** 4 Aug 2018, 02:29 am »

Quote from: kingdeezie on 4 Aug 2018, 01:34 am

Can the flat packs be finished in any way? Would like to get a pair of Super 7s eventually, but I have no way to finish the flat packs in any meaningful way.

We can do finished cabinets as well but the box size grows consderably. Finishing can vary in cost greatly too, we can even offer House of Kolor automotive finish which is stunning but spendy.

don't think I'd be too keen on sending out painted flat pakcs (unassembled), I'd be too worried about scratching the panels
jay

Danny Richie · « **Reply #12 on:** 4 Aug 2018, 03:10 pm »

Quote from: richidoo on 4 Aug 2018, 12:20 am

Will it use electronic crossover or all passive?
Is there compensation planned for the Z offset between woofer and mids?

Thanks!

The filters for the upper drivers will all be passive.

The driver offset between the Neo's and the servo subs are a non-factor. At the 200Hz crossover point the wavelengths are five and a half feet long. So the six inch offset is barely even five degrees of phase rotation. And that is easily compensated for with the phase control knob on the servo amp.

PDR · « **Reply #13 on:** 4 Aug 2018, 08:38 pm »

Quote from: Captainhemo on 4 Aug 2018, 12:28 am

maybe a road trip to the Okanagan at some point, once we get a pair built out it'd be cool for you to hear them
jay

My brother inlaw just bought a new spread in Summer Land....I'd be honoured.

Captainhemo · « **Reply #14 on:** 4 Aug 2018, 09:42 pm »

Quote from: PDR on 4 Aug 2018, 08:38 pm

My brother inlaw just bought a new spread in Summer Land....I'd be honoured.

That works, about 1/2 hr from here

Here's a few more pics..... I got rid of the feature/edge outlines and added a bit of color, looks a bit more "real"

jay

gregfisk · « **Reply #15 on:** 5 Aug 2018, 07:40 pm »

These look really good Jay, I just wish I could make mine work. Ruben did such a good job it just wouldn't make sense to strip the servo subs out of them.

AKLegal · « **Reply #16 on:** 5 Aug 2018, 09:44 pm »

I'm definitely interested in these.

Hear Clifford Brown · « **Reply #17 on:** 5 Aug 2018, 11:42 pm »

I'm very interested also !!

gregfisk · « **Reply #18 on:** 6 Aug 2018, 08:31 pm »

Jay, Looking at the front of the top section how tall is it from top edge to the bottom and how wide?

Thanks,

Greg

Rivalaudio · « **Reply #19 on:** 6 Aug 2018, 08:57 pm »

$? Any ideas as to what we are going to be paying for these guys? Also curious on the height on the speaker and the height of the tweeter level.