Re: RM30C configuration...

flm · « **on:** 7 Jan 2005, 01:06 am »

Hi,

I am considering the RM30C and was wondering if this speaker can be ordered for single wiring only so I don't have to deal with the extra connectors and shorting straps? Also can they be orderd with Cardas copper (rhodium plate) binding posts?

Lastly what is the standard internal wiring for this speaker?

Thanks!

lkosova · « **Reply #1 on:** 7 Jan 2005, 08:05 pm »

Brian is at Ces and would have to answer some of your questions. The straps are no big deal and just go from top to bottom and take 1 minute to put on.

The internal wire should still be Monster wiring but you can get Analysis Plus internal wiring also. I think Wayne from Boulder also did one with his wire.

The binding post that he uses are first class and I don't see what advantage you would have by changing them but again he would have to answer that.

Larry
AudioandImage.com

ctviggen · « **Reply #2 on:** 7 Jan 2005, 08:27 pm »

I'm sure Brian would make one in that configuration. However, you might like biwiring better, so I personally would keep the shorting straps and two sets of connectors (I have my RM40s and RM30C biwired and my RM30C biamped).

flm · « **Reply #3 on:** 7 Jan 2005, 08:52 pm »

Hi,

Thank you for your replies! Brian is probably very busy this week.

I'll probably keep the standard binding posts but hopfully I can cut down on the number of binding posts. In the pic, I have seen in the Stereotimes review, I see a bi-wire set at the bottom and another bi-wire set further up. Hopefully I can get one single wire at the bottom and one single wire further up and still have the shorting strap.

Thanks!

ctviggen · « **Reply #4 on:** 7 Jan 2005, 09:28 pm »

The top binding posts are for the mids/highs; the bottom binding posts are for the lows. So, you want just one set of binding posts and have the internals of the speaker connected to the one set of binding posts. Reallty, though there's not much difference between taking your cables to one set of binding posts and using the straps to the other set of binding posts. But, some people think posts affect the sound, so if you're sure you're never going to biamp/biwire, I'm sure Brian could take out one set of binding posts.

lkosova · « **Reply #5 on:** 7 Jan 2005, 10:00 pm »

flm,

If I am understanding you correctly then you will have one binding post after you use the straps. In the future you might want to biwire or biamp and need the other post. I hope you are understanding this correctly. I really don't think you will gain anything by taking out the other binding posts.

In my showroom I use the RM-30c but in the vertical position and it is just a wonderful sound with clean ,clear dialouge with two RM-30m's with larger subwoofer and Ribbon dipoles for the surround. This is a theater system that is hard to beat and a top class music system to boot. There is no muddiness to the center channel(always a center channel issue).

Also you can "tune" it to your room which is a real big plus for the center channel(not to mention the other channels).

Larry

jgubman · « **Reply #6 on:** 7 Jan 2005, 10:21 pm »

I think FLM is just confused by the stereotimes photo of the rear of the speaker (which I agree is rather small and looks like it has 4 sets of binding posts) and the rather large space btwn the top and bottom binding posts on VMPS speakers.

Here's a detailed shot of the binding posts on my RM-40s:

I believe the RM-30s have a similar binding-post configuration (the spacing between the top and bottom posts might be different).

Either way, the RM-30 is shipped w/ two sets of binding standard -- one for the treble/midrange and one for the bass.

Wayne1 · « **Reply #7 on:** 7 Jan 2005, 10:27 pm »

flm,

The "standard" wiring for all VMPS speakers is Monster 12 awg OEM for the woofers, 18 awg, stranded, silver plated copper for mids and 20 awg, stranded, silver plated copper for the tweeter.

The Analysis Plus upgrade is just for the woofer wiring.

I have had two folks ask for speakers with all Bolder cable internally. A pair of RM-40s and a pair of 626Rs were built this way. They used the 11.5 awg stranded NITRO speaker cable for woofers, 18 awg solid core for mids and 20 awg solid core for tweeters. The speakers and wire were ordered from me and I sent Brian the wire.

The binding posts Brian uses are very good and work great for spade lugs. If you want to use bananas, Brian has a mod for the posts. The hook up with the standard jumpers is very easy. He uses ring terminals for the jumpers so they will not fall off.

flm · « **Reply #8 on:** 7 Jan 2005, 11:16 pm »

Quote from: lkosova

flm,

If I am understanding you correctly then you will have one binding post after you use the straps. In the future you might want to biwire or biamp and need the other post. I hope you are understanding this correctly. I really don't think you will gain anything by taking out the other binding posts.

In my showroom I use the RM-30c but in the vertical position and it is just a wonderful sound with clean ,clear dialouge with two RM-30m's with larger subwoofer and Ribbon dipoles for the surround. This ...

Hi Larry,

I think I will just have one set (-/+) for the mids/highs and one set for the midwoofers. I plan on using the RM30C as a stereo pair.

Thanks!

flm · « **Reply #9 on:** 7 Jan 2005, 11:18 pm »

Quote from: jgubman

I think FLM is just confused by the stereotimes photo of the rear of the speaker (which I agree is rather small and looks like it has 4 sets of binding posts) and the rather large space btwn the top and bottom binding posts on VMPS speakers.

Here's a detailed shot of the binding posts on my RM-40s:

I believe the RM-30s have a similar binding-post configuration (the spacing between the top and bottom posts might be differe ...

Hi,

If possible, can you please resend the pic I'm not sure if my webtv is distorting the pic but I can't
really make it out.

Thanks!

flm · « **Reply #10 on:** 7 Jan 2005, 11:21 pm »

Quote from: Wayne1

flm,

The "standard" wiring for all VMPS speakers is Monster 12 awg OEM for the woofers, 18 awg, stranded, silver plated copper for mids and 20 awg, stranded, silver plated copper for the tweeter.

The Analysis Plus upgrade is just for the woofer wiring.

I have had two folks ask for speakers with all Bolder cable internally. A pair of RM-40s and a pair of 626Rs were built this way. They used the 11.5 awg stranded NITRO speaker cable for woofers, 18 awg solid core for mids and 20 awg solid core for tw ...

Hi Wayne,

I thought I read in the archives recently that all internal wiring now for the RM30 is Analyis copper and silver would be the option.

Thanks!

Wayne1 · « **Reply #11 on:** 7 Jan 2005, 11:55 pm »

I apologise. I was wrong about the 12 awg monster. Brian did say that copper analysis is standard in the RM-30 for the woofers.