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This is the difference between being arrogant, and knowing you can’t possibly have the 1000 years experience with top level gear the 60 ears I’m basing my information on has.
Dev,I’m not justifying the cost. In fact I’m on a mission to match this for $5000. However I sincerely believe based on my research this is among the top DAC’s available in the market today. If you want to make the best gear, you need to have a reference point to use. Otherwise there’s no way to know where you’re at.
Wait till those new opamps arrive.
you mean the Fivefish ?
You mean the 60 ears that aren't your own So, since you're so adamant that one must use reference level gear, in one's own system, to decide if the best SS has "wiped out" tubes, what gear top flight gear have you used in your own system to justify this opinion? Besides the stuff you make, I mean. And you never answered me about whether you've heard the top of the line Lampizator DAC or the top of the line Modwright DAC. Although I don't suppose it really matters, since you HAVEN'T HEARD the DAC you say bests everything else (the MSB). So you don't have a basis of actual comparison. I mean seriously, how can you design a piece of gear and know how it sounds vs other high end gear, if you've never heard the very gear you're comparing it against? That's insane.
I’m not going to share the list of DAC’s my clients have compared to mine. This isn’t the place for it. And it really doesn’t matter. Because that’s a previous gen DAC. It will be soon enough that brand new datapoints will be shared by dozens here on AC. So sit back and enjoy the ride to enlightenment:)I’m finished here.
Just a couple random thoughts here - hope that they can be digested without provoking further rounds of bickering As to Freo-1 and bavmike's back and forth over Diavialet's relative merits, Mike's right that Divialet isn't everyone's cup of tea. I've known of several owners that moved on from that brand. That said, people move on because it's hard to separate "different" from "better" and we don't always immediately perceive what we really need or want. Something about the human brain craves new stimuli and our excitement over new audio gear definitely falls into that category of experience. Some people (with spare cash) move from gear to gear like Jay Leno goes through cars because they're addicted to change and can't settle down. I guess we're all in pursuit of that "absolute sound" that will remain an elusive goal. As to Mike's implication that Divialet must be deficient because it's resale value plummets, that's no meaningful metric IMO. Pretty much ALL upper tier gear has a similar depreciation curve from what I see. I'm not complaining though, I'd never have a system I appreciate as much if others didn't churn gear and sell for 50% off.
Freo-1, you are absolutely right about tubes and the hobbyist aspect. A lot of us like the hands on tweaking and experimenting that some tube gear inspires. I don't think tube gear is going away any time soon if for no other reason than the sight of a rack full of equipment with glowing tubes triggers all sorts of pleasant emotions. Even the younger beginning audiophiles I've met are fascinated with the idea of tubes. Tube audio has a sort of steampunk aesthetic that appeals to a certain number of us. I also completely agree with that observation that whether a given bit of kit sounds good, great, or indifferent often depends on system context. Just as you mentioned, I've heard the same piece of gear sound blah in one context and great in another. Another thing that seems really hard for many of us to accept is that there's great variability in what each of us perceives as "correct" sound. There's as much variability there as there are in the realms of religion, politics, child rearing, sexual attraction, etc. We seem to be as quick to condemn someone for different tastes in audio as we are in those other matters as well. Listening to the chatter at audio shows confirms that quickly. The high wattage solid state, wall of sound MBL and Martin Logan room lovers are nattering away the the deaf ones who love the single driver flea watt systems, the tube lovers are shaking their heads at class D rooms, and so it goes.
Amp/speaker selection is IMHO the most important. There needs to be a synergy of load required, wattage and character. I apply the rule of opposites. Bright amp then warm speaker and visa versa. charles
It's interesting that, to my ears, the AS1200 module amp I just acquired turns that idea on it's head. The Tidal Piano Ceras I listen too are really revealing speakers with ceramic drivers and all previous amps I'd preferred were of the warmer persuasion. The AS1200 has tremendous clarity and I could imagine that with lower accuracy bright speakers it could be too much of a good thing. However, with speakers that have clarity without much distortion and good phase accuracy, it's just more of a good thing. Admittedly the one downside to that is that inferior recordings have nowhere to hide and it's all too easy to hear recording inadequacies. Even then, deficiencies aren't magnified and made more unappealing, they're just evident.
nominal impedance: 4-6 Ohm frequency response: very linear, F3 = 32 Hz
efficiency:since several unrealistic numbers of competitors we don't want to confuse clients by comparing non saying numbers on paper. Therefore it is: "Good efficiency, easy to drive also with tube amps / SET'S".
To compare with DIY (or not) Plutone speakers:http://www.humblehomemadehifi.com/Plutone.htmlWe have ALL information less the values of crossover components. And graphs, crossover diagrams and photos.
