Bryston SP4

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Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #280 on: 3 Jul 2019, 01:02 am »
I trust my ears more than the math.  Our brains can decipher things that may not simply show up in a formula.
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Believe me, math is more reliable

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Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #281 on: 3 Jul 2019, 01:07 am »
Listening to vinyl and reel to reel is a luxury. :lol: I think digital has reached a point in its technology that it favorable competes with analog especially when you consider cost, convenience and overall sound quality. I can listen to 20 different compositions from different albums while you are playing one vinyl. I can skip whereas you have to fast forward. You have to worry about azimuth adjustments, cartridges, stylus, cleaning records, demagnetizing, cleaning heads, changing belts and a plethora of other issues. This is 2019 and I refuse to put up with what I went through in the '70s.  Analog is just too limiting for me. When I was playing the red book edition of Freddie Hubbard's CD, "Open Sesame,"  from the Bluenote label on the BDA3, it sounded like it was playing on an AR turntable back in the day. There was great imaging, depth and soundstage without the hiss and scratches. Sounds great.  :wink:

You know gbaby you just hit the nail on the head. A hobbyist reaches a point where any future changes to your system are unimportant. Could it sound better, sure, BUT would that make you any more into the music, no,
This has happened in two of my systems, my HT and my desktop. Sure I could spend more, get more but when it sounds as close to LIVE music as it does now there is just mo point chasing upgrades any more.

witchdoctor

Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #282 on: 3 Jul 2019, 01:09 am »
I didn’t realize you were referring to CDs.

Digital makes up about 5% of my listening. I listen to reel to reel and vinyl.  I don’t find digital music emotionally engaging as compared to analog.  YMMB.

Hmmm,sounds like you are happy too, are you a tube or solid state guy?

witchdoctor

Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #283 on: 3 Jul 2019, 01:14 am »
I don’t think anyone is saying the digital resolution is the holy grail.  However, you are changing the discussion a bit.  Earlier you were basically saying that there is no need for high resolution digital, that red book was as good as it gets.  Correct me if I am wrong in saying that.

Now you are introducing other aspects of a recording what affect the final sound.  No one is arguing that point.  Clearly it all starts with the initial recording.  That’s not what we are talking about.  We are talking about difference in the final “product” whether it be red book or hi res.

The "holy grail" has been found and it works with vinyl, tape, and digital. It is the primary way I listen and if you are reading this thread THIS is why you NEED an SP4. The "Holy Grail" can be mixed natively or upmixed using any source you please:

https://blog.dolby.com/holy-grail-experiencing-pepper-dolby-atmos/




witchdoctor

Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #284 on: 3 Jul 2019, 01:20 am »
Trust me, making the leap from stereo to immersive audio is light years beyond making the leap from 44 or 48 bits to whatever hirez format you choose.

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Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #285 on: 26 Jul 2019, 10:34 pm »
Tuned this bad ass theater last night.

ALL Bryston!

SP4 Processor, 9BSST² Amp, Model T Speakers, TC1 Center, Mini Ts Surround.

Rockin!

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Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #286 on: 27 Jul 2019, 10:39 pm »
Tuned this bad ass theater last night.

ALL Bryston!

SP4 Processor, 9BSST² Amp, Model T Speakers, TC1 Center, Mini Ts Surround.

Rockin!

Gary Dayton




Looks delightful, no sub? BRD?

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Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #287 on: 29 Jul 2019, 05:45 pm »
Hi, Mr. Tanner.


Is 3D speaker mapping something that Storm/Bryston is working to include in the future in their firmware?
It would be very useful in my case. This is part of the Trinnov Optimizer:
https://secure.aes.org/forum/pubs/conventions/?elib=13091

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Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #288 on: 30 Jul 2019, 11:37 am »
Hi, Mr. Tanner.


Is 3D speaker mapping something that Storm/Bryston is working to include in the future in their firmware?
It would be very useful in my case. This is part of the Trinnov Optimizer:
https://secure.aes.org/forum/pubs/conventions/?elib=13091

Hi

Not sure - will leave this one for Gary to answer.

james

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Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #289 on: 31 Jul 2019, 10:08 pm »
Hi, Mr. Tanner.


Is 3D speaker mapping something that Storm/Bryston is working to include in the future in their firmware?
It would be very useful in my case. This is part of the Trinnov Optimizer:
https://secure.aes.org/forum/pubs/conventions/?elib=13091

Me thinks you ask for too much. :o

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Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #290 on: 8 Aug 2019, 10:57 am »
‘PMC will be using an Altitude32-1632 and 4x Amplitude8 for their active demonstration in Sound Room 9’
https://www.trinnov.com/2019/08/07/trinnov-at-cedia-expo-2019/

What’s happening - PMC replaces the SP4 and Bryston amps.....(?)

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Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #291 on: 8 Aug 2019, 12:06 pm »
‘PMC will be using an Altitude32-1632 and 4x Amplitude8 for their active demonstration in Sound Room 9’
https://www.trinnov.com/2019/08/07/trinnov-at-cedia-expo-2019/

What’s happening - PMC replaces the SP4 and Bryston amps.....(?)

Probably sharing a booth.

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Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #292 on: 8 Aug 2019, 07:26 pm »
At Munich, Bristol and KLIAV 2019 PMC used the SP4.
Judging from their statement it doesn’t seem like they are just sharing the booth?

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Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #293 on: 8 Aug 2019, 10:04 pm »
At Munich, Bristol and KLIAV 2019 PMC used the SP4.
Judging from their statement it doesn’t seem like they are just sharing the booth?

Hi Extreman,

They are a separate company from ours so they may have decided to go a different way than using Bryston.

james

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Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #294 on: 8 Aug 2019, 11:38 pm »
Ok, disappointing nevertheless.
I had the impression that this combination was a winner, but once again it seems that Trinnov is preferred at the very top end.

witchdoctor

Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #295 on: 9 Aug 2019, 03:12 pm »
Ok, disappointing nevertheless.
I had the impression that this combination was a winner, but once again it seems that Trinnov is preferred at the very top end.

So you would drop $15K+ on what someone else prefers? Discriminating shopper eh?
Nothing against Trinnov but give me a break $$$$  :roll:
You gotta get with a dealer (or two or three) on this type of purchase first. Let them check out YOUR room, your speakers, your taste anf THEN recommend the component that fits YOU. ALL of these compnents are customozable to the nth degree, why make it more difficult (and costly) than it should be?

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Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #296 on: 9 Aug 2019, 05:16 pm »
I don’t think PMC’s decision had anything to do with the price tag.
In case you haven’t noticed, I already own the SP4 and I am occupied with my products retaining a good reputation.

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Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #297 on: 9 Aug 2019, 10:00 pm »
MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: BEST A/V System Malaysia Audio/Video Show 2019


August 2019

KLIAVS 2019: Best of…AV systems

James Tan of AV Designs for his AV demo, the TAD reference-level amps to drive the PMC Fenestrias while Brystons drove the other speakers.

James also used ‘Dirac Live’ equalization in the Bryston SP4 AV processor.

This system was good enough for both stereo listening and AV sensations!


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Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #298 on: 11 Aug 2019, 06:02 am »
MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: BEST A/V System Malaysia Audio/Video Show 2019


August 2019

KLIAVS 2019: Best of…AV systems

James Tan of AV Designs for his AV demo, the TAD reference-level amps to drive the PMC Fenestrias while Brystons drove the other speakers.

--->  :? James also used ‘Dirac Live’ equalization in the Bryston SP4 AV processor.  :?<---

This system was good enough for both stereo listening and AV sensations!


By Lam Seng Fatt


James! Tell him that needs an asterisk for "movies only", right? James??

witchdoctor

Re: Bryston SP4
« Reply #299 on: 11 Aug 2019, 03:16 pm »
I don’t think PMC’s decision had anything to do with the price tag.
In case you haven’t noticed, I already own the SP4 and I am occupied with my products retaining a good reputation.

I wish I owned an SP4, congrats. I doubt a decision by a vendor at a show would impact the resale value or brand equity of Bryston in general of the SP4.