Looking for price conscious mid-fi

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ScottMayo

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« on: 13 Dec 2004, 08:03 pm »
I know nothing about integrated systems - I usually go with separate components. So I'm looking for advice on putting together a medium quality "2nd stereo" system for a few hundred. I want to be able to support CD, DVD, VHS tape, FM (decent quality), AM, and MP3 disks. The ability to drive 2 sets of stereo speakers at the same time is essential; a line out for a subwoofer might be desirable. 5+ channels are not desired. This is not home theater.

I'm using in-wall speakers (and not high end ones) and I don't need over 50W a channel. I like speed and accuracy, but for this system I'd tolerate a little warmth, as I'm sharing it with my wife. It will be mostly for watching movies and background music in a few rooms, when I don't want to fire up the big rig in the stereo room and deal with a sweet spot 24 inches across. I only want to spend 150-400$ dollars.

I know mid-fi is a stretch at this price range, but what's tolerable, if anything?

MaxCast

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« Reply #1 on: 13 Dec 2004, 08:24 pm »
Quote from: ScottMayo
I'm looking for advice on putting together a medium quality "2nd stereo" system for a few hundred. I want to be able to support CD, DVD, VHS tape, FM (decent quality), AM, and MP3 disks.  ...


If you have these sources looks like you need a receiver.

mcgsxr

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« Reply #2 on: 13 Dec 2004, 08:30 pm »
A used NAD L40 might do the trick, but I do not know if it reads MP3...

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« Reply #3 on: 13 Dec 2004, 11:44 pm »
Scott,

A while back I read this review of the Denon DRA-395. It is a traditional 2-channel stereo receiver.

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/frr.pl?ramps&1080742540&read&3&4&

This guy really likes it and it has A&B speaker output, plus multi-room capability. Sounds like a sweet deal and I've seen it advertised for as little as $130 for a refurb unit or about $230-280 for new.

It might just fit the bill!!!

Enjoy,

TIC

Musky_Don

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« Reply #4 on: 15 Dec 2004, 03:17 am »
A while back - I was on the same quest.  I looked at the Denon 2-channel but instead went with the Yamaha RX-777 (I think it was around $400 new).  It could handle a much heavier load than the Denon.  Nice little unit.  I ended up upgrading to some Odyssey gear as I found myself spending a lot of time in those 'secondary areas'.  I still have the Yamaha - great condition.  If interested send me a PM - I'l let it go for whatever market is.  I have the box - I think the only thing missing is a jumper to use an external amp - no big deal.  Good luck either way.

JLM

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« Reply #5 on: 15 Dec 2004, 11:14 am »
A couple of years back I picked up a factory reconditioned Harmon Kardon 70 wpc stereo receiver for $160 delivered.  Sounds as good as my $700 Rotel stereo receiver, tuner is better at pulling in stations.  Front panel controls are scary cheap, but work (has a remote).  Overall the unit weighs 35 pounds and is rated to produce 42 amps!  The left channel did distort badly before going out completely, but HK stood fully behind the 2 year warrantee and provided no hassle service by recommending several local repair shops and wanted the name of their factory repair guy as they practice a three strikes, you're out policy for their repair folks.

The HK is in my 2.1 HT system (obviously I'm not a much of a video freak).  The speakers I'm using are Ascend Acoustics CBM-170s and they're fantastic!  Extreme content value, sound even better.  Would kick anything from Paradigm, B&W, or Dynaudio in the pants at twice the price.  Those provide a black and white outline of the music, the 170s do that and full in the color of the music.  They're small but rather fat looking two-way standmounts, 89 dB/w/m, 70 - 20,000 Hz.  The black vinyl cabinet finish is made for frequent moves or rough environments (I have 4 teenagers, don't ask), but that's the low point.  $340/pair.

A Toshiba 3960 ($60) or Panasonic S70 ($100) universal player would work great.  Add cheap cabling (CAT5 is wonderful and nearly free) and your in for under $600.

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« Reply #6 on: 15 Dec 2004, 06:19 pm »
Neither the Denon or Yahama recommended above will give you warmth or accuracy, but since you want a receiver as well as a universal disc player for under $400, those are pretty much your two choices.

Unless you want to go used. In that case, I would go for an NAD receiver.

Jeffery

bixby

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« Reply #7 on: 15 Dec 2004, 06:57 pm »
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=14535

The JVC RX-ES1Sl without a doubt.  Best sounding receiver I have heard in a long time.  Needs to break in but once it does sounds very good.  Should be perfect for your application and supports all you mentioned.  Under $200 on the web.  Add a $50 DVD player (check here and the asylum for the bargain flavor of the month) and you are set.  Use the rest on some decent Belden based or silver ICs depending on which flavor you like and some magnet wire or vampire ofc stranded speaeker wire and viola.  A decent sounding system.

good luck with the project

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« Reply #8 on: 15 Dec 2004, 10:15 pm »
I agree with Bixby on the JVC receivers.  Should've mentioned it, but it's been written about so much on the digital circle I didn't bother.  I had the RX-ES1SL here for an extended audition with $1500 speakers.  It has excellent sound, but build quality is no better than what you'd expect for the price.  Spring clips for speaker cables, eeee yuck!  Reminds me of the Toshiba 3950/3960 universal players.  At least the Panasonic S47 looks like the JVC receivers.  But digital source technology is changing so fast I don't quite mind buying cheap for players.