The LIO DAC 2.0 information and discussion thread

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Mitch751

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Re: The LIO DAC 2.0 information and discussion thread
« Reply #100 on: 4 Dec 2017, 01:51 am »
Please allow me to ask a question, which has been confusing me for quite some time.

I have been told by adding Mutec MC3 USB+, there will be a signifcant improvement on every DAC (not matter how good it is, included LIO USB2). I understand this Mutec is just a reclocker, which LIO USB 2 has already Built in, in this case, why should I need it ?

People keep on telling me how important is the master clock, if this is the case, why many good grade DAC including LIO do not have an wclock in / out for external master clock?

If reclocker has already done the job, why should an extra Master clock need to add on ?

ebag4

Re: The LIO DAC 2.0 information and discussion thread
« Reply #101 on: 17 Mar 2018, 12:19 am »
Just installed my DAC 2.0 an hour ago, so likely some break in still to occur.  I didn’t have to wait for the break in to hear the improvement compared to the DAC 1.0.  I can hear deeper into the music, the clarity is incredible.  More as it breaks in, but I don’t need any more time to know that it’s a keeper.  I’ll be shipping my DAC 1.0 back Monday!  Great job Vinnie, very impressive.

Best,
Ed

Vinnie R.

Re: The LIO DAC 2.0 information and discussion thread
« Reply #102 on: 20 Mar 2018, 03:18 pm »
Just installed my DAC 2.0 an hour ago, so likely some break in still to occur.  I didn’t have to wait for the break in to hear the improvement compared to the DAC 1.0.  I can hear deeper into the music, the clarity is incredible.  More as it breaks in, but I don’t need any more time to know that it’s a keeper.  I’ll be shipping my DAC 1.0 back Monday!  Great job Vinnie, very impressive.

Best,
Ed

Hi Ed,

Nice - glad you are enjoying your LIO DAC 2.0 right out of the box!  It gets even better  8)

Thanks for your post and keeping us posted!

Vinnie

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Re: The LIO DAC 2.0 information and discussion thread
« Reply #103 on: 15 May 2018, 11:24 pm »
I wanted to throw out a very brief update on my DAC 2.0, it is possibly the best money I have spent on audio.

Best,
Ed

mirekti

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Re: The LIO DAC 2.0 information and discussion thread
« Reply #104 on: 2 Jun 2018, 03:28 pm »
Now when I read there would be a LIO trade in program I think I might be in trouble.
Is the price list for preamp, its modules and monos set?
I assume one could order a preamp with the DAC only, and add phono sometime later, correct?

...wrong thread :(
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Vinnie R.

Re: The LIO DAC 2.0 information and discussion thread
« Reply #105 on: 4 Jun 2018, 03:12 pm »
I wanted to throw out a very brief update on my DAC 2.0, it is possibly the best money I have spent on audio.
Best,
Ed

Hi Ed,

I'm very pleased to hear that you and all my DAC 2.0 customers are thoroughly enjoying it!  :beer:

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All,

I sent a LIO DAC 2.0 to DARKO AUDIO last March, and John Darko just posted his review:

https://darko.audio/2018/06/giant-steps-from-the-vinnie-rossi-dac-2-0/



As you will see, besides the excellent review it includes a couple of videos (one about LIO in general, and one about installing the DAC 2.0
and LIO XLR OUTPUTS module).  What a great start to the week!  8)

Quote from: John Darko / DARKO AUDIO
...the DAC 2.0 LIO affords music greater conviction. It’s firmer of foot-(stomp), more overt in its expression of a song’s scale and drama.

...After a week with the triple-decked DAC 2.0, I re-installed the double-stacked original [DAC 1.0] to find its overall gestalt pinched in the middle, greying on top and a little short of breath. One word: lacklustre. The new version outclasses it in every way: better clarity, better dynamics, better detail retrieval, greater avidity.

...And yet I knew this from the get-go. A first listen to the DAC 2.0 had me, quite literally laugh out loud at my hifi system, so pronounced was the upgrade’s magnitude.

...The LIO DAC 2.0, playing into the Genelecs via auto-former pre-amplifier module, delivers a musical intensity that we just don’t quite get from the PS Audio DirectStream going DAC direct into the same loudspeakers.




Many thanks to John for taking the time to review DAC 2.0 (he has had his LIO with DAC 1.0 since 2015, so he knows how it sounds in comparison!) and for his additional effort in taking the videos / pics that give the reader a better idea on how LIO's modular approach allows for easy upgrading by our customers.

Vinnie

matthewpartrick

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Re: The LIO DAC 2.0 information and discussion thread
« Reply #106 on: 8 Jun 2018, 04:17 am »
I read John's article with obvious enthusiasm, since I've been enjoying the DAC 2.0 for a few months. 

It's hard to compare to another statement-level DAC on the market both in terms of pricing, value, and sound.  All I can say is that it's the most natural sounding DAC I've ever had and that I'm happy that Vinnie has developed this business model of reduction of obsolescence.

Thanks again for your innovation!  Today's sonic forays were Roon/Tidal MQA files like some o the newer Avett Brothers albums, since they're playing in KW in late November.

Thanks again!


Edit:  Price not withstanding, to what do you think the mainstream audiophile journalists would compare the LIO DAC 2.0? I know it's apples to oranges in terms of case and trade-in, but if you restricted the parameters to the technical specs alone, what's it's competition? (News flash; I'm not looking to trade it in, more interested in bragging rights to those who spent big bucks on DACS only to look down their noses. :)
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Vinnie R.

Re: The LIO DAC 2.0 information and discussion thread
« Reply #107 on: 8 Jun 2018, 06:49 pm »

All I can say is that it's the most natural sounding DAC I've ever had and that I'm happy that Vinnie has developed this business model of reduction of obsolescence.

Thanks again for your innovation!


Thank you, Matthew!  I'm glad to hear about how you and so many more of my customers are enjoying the flexibility of LIO, the relative ease of upgrading and 100% trade-in policy for upgraded modules.  That was my vision with LIO from the very beginning, and I appreciate learning how well it has been working out for you all!  :notworthy:

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Price not withstanding, to what do you think the mainstream audiophile journalists would compare the LIO DAC 2.0? I know it's apples to oranges in terms of case and trade-in, but if you restricted the parameters to the technical specs alone, what's it's competition? (News flash; I'm not looking to trade it in, more interested in bragging rights to those who spent big bucks on DACS only to look down their noses.

Any stand-alone dac into the $10K (and perhaps a few that are even more expensive) would be fair comparison in my [heavily biased] opinion regarding how outstanding DAC 2.0 sounds. :green:

All that really matters is how you are enjoying your music with your system.  Regarding those who may look down their noses at you because they spent more money, I wouldn't even begin to waste your time playing that game.  That's a one-upmanship, "keeping up with the jones" type of game, but is it really any fun?  They have a lot invested in their game, so try not to make them feel nervous on their tightrope.  Congratulate them instead.  :wink:

What matters is how you are connecting with your music and hopefully loving the time that you spend listening. 

Thanks again for your post!

Vinnie