So digital receivers...

sleepkyng · « **on:** 25 Nov 2004, 02:50 am »

which one to get?

seems like people like the panny models?

i'm thinking of selling my melos sha 1, and teac tripath, and getting a good digital receiver

~300 bucks?

thanks guys n gals!

mcgsxr · « **Reply #1 on:** 25 Nov 2004, 02:54 am »

I am enjoying my JVC ES-1, but I am not considering selling off the Teac - why are you?

sleepkyng · « **Reply #2 on:** 25 Nov 2004, 03:30 am »

if i can do it all in one box and save cash, why not?

right now i don't have the cash for the ultimate setup (or the space) so this might be the way.

mcgsxr · « **Reply #3 on:** 25 Nov 2004, 12:11 pm »

Good point - if you really like the Teac sound, I would suggest the Panny - I find that the JVC is a little different, but you might like that anyway...

Good luck assembing the new system, you are on the right track anyway!

How are those Totems working out for you?

audiogansta · « **Reply #4 on:** 25 Nov 2004, 12:59 pm »

denon makes a very good dd reciever,i have the avr-1802 and has server me well for a few years.

scott

mcgsxr · « **Reply #5 on:** 25 Nov 2004, 01:57 pm »

Not to put words in the mouth of my good friend the Sleepkyng, but I think in this case digital refers to the nature of the amplification, rather than the nature of the processing of surround.

I believe he is trying to get a concensus about the Panny or JVC digital receivers. Are there others that I am forgetting?

tex-amp · « **Reply #6 on:** 25 Nov 2004, 04:36 pm »

Quote from: audiogansta

denon makes a very good dd reciever,i have the avr-1802 and has server me well for a few years.

scott

Dolby Digital is the processing program. Digital receivers/amps are digital in amplification. In the case of the Pannys if you use a digital input the only digital to analog conversion is at the output to the speakrs. Most traditional setups have multiple digital to analog and analog to digital conversions adding the chance for errors and coloring the sound at each conversion.

cryotweaks · « **Reply #7 on:** 25 Nov 2004, 05:06 pm »

If you want to spend a little more, the Sony ES lineup has their own proprietary digital amplified receivers that can be tweaked to sound very good so I am told. I myself will have the ES9000 with their matching SACD player in a week or two. I'll let you know my findings if you are interested.

TheChairGuy · « **Reply #8 on:** 25 Nov 2004, 08:13 pm »

Quote from: cryotweaks

If you want to spend a little more, the Sony ES lineup has their own proprietary digital amplified receivers that can be tweaked to sound very good so I am told. I myself will have the ES9000 with their matching SACD player in a week or two. I'll let you know my findings if you are interested.

Indeed Mike/cryotweaks, let us know

mcgsxr · « **Reply #9 on:** 25 Nov 2004, 11:50 pm »

Could we get a clarification of what "a little more" than $300 is?

GefellTaper · « **Reply #10 on:** 26 Nov 2004, 02:05 am »

Fore that model, add 2700 bucks. the 9000es is around 3 grand. The 2000es, a comparable model to the panny's and jvc's etc so I am told runs about 500 clams.

Daryan

nickspicks · « **Reply #11 on:** 26 Nov 2004, 12:58 pm »

Quote from: cryotweaks

If you want to spend a little more, the Sony ES lineup has their own proprietary digital amplified receivers that can be tweaked to sound very good so I am told. I myself will have the ES9000 with their matching SACD player in a week or two. I'll let you know my findings if you are interested.

man, i'm jealous!
report back !

nickspicks · « **Reply #12 on:** 28 Nov 2004, 02:21 pm »

...and dont forget that the Sony lines have that ASS-KICKING PCM > DSD conversion in them. Its absolute magic...and the others dont have it.
It is the secrete to the Sonys.

I can't believe i'm the only one on this list who uses one of these Sony boxes for 2 chan. If there are others, then I can't uderstand why nobody else is gushing about the sound of these things.

sleepkyng · « **Reply #13 on:** 28 Nov 2004, 09:44 pm »

400 bucks is where i top out

thanks guys and keep the reccomendations coming

can i get a link to those sony models for two channel?

cheers

nickspicks · « **Reply #14 on:** 29 Nov 2004, 12:30 am »

www.oade.com
the STR-DA2000ES is about $500 I believe, so you may have to shop around.
talk to them if you want to know more. they are quick to respond to emails and such. a pleasure to yap on the phone with as well.

all the big ES lines, 2000, 3000, 5000, 9000 models are 6.1 chan digital recievers that are just astounding in direct 2ch mode (bypassing all the surround hoopla).

Taz13 · « **Reply #15 on:** 29 Nov 2004, 02:20 am »

All I know about this is I bought an open box XR=SA25 panny just to see what the fuss is about. I am now in the process of selling my NAD T762 to be replaced with a digital. I happen to love Sony so will be giving those a listen as well as both the JVC and newer Pannies. But after hearing that little pannie perform in a side by side test with the 762, the 762 is for sale.

nickspicks · « **Reply #16 on:** 29 Nov 2004, 11:58 am »

Quote from: Taz13

All I know about this is I bought an open box XR=SA25 panny just to see what the fuss is about. I am now in the process of selling my NAD T762 to be replaced with a digital. I happen to love Sony so will be giving those a listen as well as both the JVC and newer Pannies. But after hearing that little pannie perform in a side by side test with the 762, the 762 is for sale.

its more than just being a "digital reciever" though...so the Panny doesn't apply here.
the magic of the sony is feeding them a PCM signal...which it upsamples to DSD. Its an astounding DAC. thats the strong point that the others do not share.

sleepkyng · « **Reply #17 on:** 29 Nov 2004, 05:47 pm »

i'd be using an airport express so my receiver would need a small optical input

does the sony have that? or the panasonic? or any of them for that matter?

mcgsxr · « **Reply #18 on:** 29 Nov 2004, 05:49 pm »

What is a "small" optical input? The JVC ES-1 that I have has 2 or 3 optical inputs - all appear to be the normal size for these, at least, it looks to be the same size as my Monarchy DIP.

bubba966 · « **Reply #19 on:** 29 Nov 2004, 05:52 pm »

Quote from: sleepkyng

i'd be using an airport express so my receiver would need a small optical input

does the sony have that? or the panasonic? or any of them for that matter?

I've not yet seen a receiver with the mini optical jacks. But I have seen cables that were mini optical on one end, and standard optical on the other.