[LarryRS]

Hi Larry

No sorry it is not looking like it will be feasible.  The safety and certification people are telling me we would have to submit amplifiers for approvals if we make any changes to the innards.

james

James,

I echo the disappointment of others re the upgrade.  On the other hand, I can think of very few companies, audio or otherwise, that would even entertain the notion.  Great products, great support, the Bryston reputation is well deserved.

LarryRS 

[dirk]

Hi Larry

No sorry it is not looking like it will be feasible.  The safety and certification people are telling me we would have to submit amplifiers for approvals if we make any changes to the innards.

james

You van give a discount on a cube for The first owner of a sst2 amp... 

[Rod_S]

You van give a discount on a cube for The first owner of a sst2 amp... 

Now there's an idea! What say you James?

This is not an unheard of thing in the industry, McIntosh does it, Lexicon did it when they built their own SSP's, Transparent Audio does it. And these programs are not just isolated to most recent previous gen to new gen upgrades they are done so that any previous product regardless of generation can be traded up with different dollar values being given on the previous gen products in decreasing value based on each older generation.

[James Tanner]

Now there's an idea! What say you James?

This is not an unheard of thing in the industry, McIntosh does it, Lexicon did it when they built their own SSP's, Transparent Audio does it. And these programs are not just isolated to most recent previous gen to new gen upgrades they are done so that any previous product regardless of generation can be traded up with different dollar values being given on the previous gen products in decreasing value based on each older generation.

Hi

I am afraid we do not have the kinds of margins in our products the some others do to offer these kinds of trade ins.  We have to rely on our dealers for that and used Bryston products will always sell well on the used market.

james

[CanadianMaestro]

Hi

I am afraid we do not have the kinds of margins in our products the some others do to offer these kinds of trade ins.  We have to rely on our dealers for that and used Bryston products will always sell well on the used market.

james

Big thumbs up on that!  My dealer gave me full trade-in value of my 3.5-yr old 4B2, towards the price of the last 14B2 from Bryston's factory. So I paid about $6K for a factory-shipped 14B2 ! That's what I call a good deal and a great dealer!

 

[Rod_S]

The problem though is not all dealers are created equal, some like yours are willing to do things like that while others would basically laugh at you by the mere mention of the word trade-in, especially at full value of the product being traded in.

If as James says they rely on the dealer network for that then this should be a Bryston mandate to allow it and Bryston sets the rules surrounding it. Dealers carrying the product thus represent the brand should all be subject to adhering to the same rules to make things fair to customers in different regions.

This is of course not an issue with just Bryston dealers it's an issue across the board for dealers representing all products.

[James Tanner]

The problem though is not all dealers are created equal, some like yours are willing to do things like that while others would basically laugh at you by the mere mention of the word trade-in, especially at full value of the product being traded in.

If as James says they rely on the dealer network for that then this should be a Bryston mandate to allow it and Bryston sets the rules surrounding it. Dealers carrying the product thus represent the brand should all be subject to adhering to the same rules to make things fair to customers in different regions.

This is of course not an issue with just Bryston dealers it's an issue across the board for dealers representing all products.

Hi Rod

The days mandating to the dealers what then can and cannot do to carry a line is long over. There are too many products and too few customers for any but the 800 pound gorilla companies to dictate terms. 

With the internet and very little customer loyalty to a dealer or a price necessary for them to offer reasonable value on a trade I fear the times they are a changing.

[Rod_S]

Thanks for posting regarding the dealerships in today's marketplace.

[CanadianMaestro]

It is a tough business indeed, high-end. Whatever a dealer can do to improve his bottom line/ enhance customer loyalty, without undercutting the mfr (Bryston) agreement, or other dealers' territorial rights, I am in support of.

It's a symbiotic ecosystem, high-end. Man-made, but subject to Darwinian Laws.