Bryston Support Unresponsive

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CJWessing

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Bryston Support Unresponsive
« on: 24 Jan 2016, 04:43 am »
Hey guys,

I sent in my Bryston SP2 back in June, worked with Mike Pickett and he gave me the Return Authorization number RA1506042.  I've emailed Mike several times over the last couple months to check the status, but he's been unresponsive.  I also submitted a contact form a week ago to Bryston and haven't heard back from them.  Can anyone at Bryston check on my RA and get back to me?

Thanks,
Chris

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Re: Bryston Support Unresponsive
« Reply #1 on: 24 Jan 2016, 12:43 pm »
Hey guys,

I sent in my Bryston SP2 back in June, worked with Mike Pickett and he gave me the Return Authorization number RA1506042.  I've emailed Mike several times over the last couple months to check the status, but he's been unresponsive.  I also submitted a contact form a week ago to Bryston and haven't heard back from them.  Can anyone at Bryston check on my RA and get back to me?

Thanks,
Chris

Hi Chris

Will check for you.

james

kberman

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Re: Bryston Support Unresponsive
« Reply #2 on: 24 Jan 2016, 07:00 pm »
Don't bother to email Mike.  I've had 2 issues in the past and both times I never heard back from him.

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Re: Bryston Support Unresponsive
« Reply #3 on: 25 Jan 2016, 02:39 pm »
Really? Wow, I'm surprised to hear that. I was just chatting with Mike last week and will be on with him again this morning. Something sounds off...

scirica

Re: Bryston Support Unresponsive
« Reply #4 on: 25 Jan 2016, 05:57 pm »
Really? Wow, I'm surprised to hear that. I was just chatting with Mike last week and will be on with him again this morning. Something sounds off...

Totally agree. My experience has been the opposite!

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Re: Bryston Support Unresponsive
« Reply #5 on: 25 Jan 2016, 06:21 pm »
Really? Wow, I'm surprised to hear that.  Something sounds off...

+1!

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Re: Bryston Support Unresponsive
« Reply #6 on: 26 Jan 2016, 02:39 am »
Never had to have my Bryston equipment serviced yet...

But I had a couple of email chat with Mike about various electronic question and used faceplate availability and Mike always got back to me.

It may have happen that I had to resend an email to get an answer, but Mike was always very sorry that he missed the first one.

(And the same with James...)

(Maybe your email got eaten up by the spam filter...)(If at first you don't succeed...  :-))

Take care!

AJ

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Re: Bryston Support Unresponsive
« Reply #7 on: 26 Jan 2016, 03:02 am »
I've also been emailing Mike about how to order a faceplate. His initial replies were almost instant, but I've not heard anything for a few weeks since I replied asking how to place my order.
Maybe he's on holiday?

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Re: Bryston Support Unresponsive
« Reply #8 on: 26 Jan 2016, 03:35 am »
I've also been emailing Mike about how to order a faceplate. His initial replies were almost instant, but I've not heard anything for a few weeks since I replied asking how to place my order.
Maybe he's on holiday?

What some times happens is we get the email, we begin reading and before we can respond someone or something interrupts us and because the email is marked read we may forget that it requires attention.  Doesn't happen often, but it does on occasion occur.

CJWessing

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Re: Bryston Support Unresponsive
« Reply #9 on: 26 Jan 2016, 05:12 am »
Heard back from Mike today, turns out they discovered a software bug while checking out my unit and they're trying to figure it out.  He assured me they'll re-check the unit and get it back to me ASAP.

-Chris

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Re: Bryston Support Unresponsive
« Reply #10 on: 26 Jan 2016, 02:46 pm »
Heard back from Mike today, turns out they discovered a software bug while checking out my unit and they're trying to figure it out.  He assured me they'll re-check the unit and get it back to me ASAP.

ASAP??  :?

What does that mean? You've been waiting since June 2015 - that is outrageous and inexcusable!

I'm sure it isn't typical, but nonetheless between the very long wait............ and the deliberate lack of communication, what we have here is a SPECTACULAR CUSTOMER SERVICE FAIL.

srb

Re: Bryston Support Unresponsive
« Reply #11 on: 26 Jan 2016, 03:45 pm »
ASAP??  :?  What does that mean?

Although many people think ASAP means quickly or immediately, it simply means "As Soon As Possible".  ;)

Apparently it has not been yet possible to repair it.  If a larger manufacturer can't resolve the issue in a few weeks or say 30 days, then a replacement unit should be sent, or if the unit is out of warranty, then timely communication should address any other possible solutions.

I've read about many "above and beyond" service responses from Bryston, so this seems to be an anomaly that somehow slipped through the cracks.  I do admire Chris' reserve in not spewing fire and brimstone with a dirty laundry tirade, but I hope a little extra somethin' finds its way to him to help offset his inexplicable 7 month wait to this point.

Steve

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Re: Bryston Support Unresponsive
« Reply #12 on: 26 Jan 2016, 05:38 pm »
Every manufacturer out there, great, good or bad, does some things better than others.  When it comes to a HT piece, where there are probably things done in house and other parts purchased/sourced outside, there is obviously a greater probability that there can be an issue (it's not as cookie cutter as a mass market receiver).  Many people go for a high end pre/pro so they can have the best of both worlds, great HT and music in a single box (for whatever reasons they have - space in the rack, other family members use it, etc.).  It's for reasons like this that I've moved in the direction of a 2-channel preamp with HT bypass.  I have integrated AV systems in both the main and one spare system and have another 2-channel system where the preamp does have HT bypass but I have not used it.  While this solution may not be good for everyone, it works well for me.  It allows me to have the 2-channel I want and I view receivers as disposable.  I just got a receiver (factory refurb Marantz 5010) in the spare system where I have a preamp with HT Bypass.  It replaced a receiver (Marantz 6003) I've had for 7 years and I rotated the old receiver to a guest room. I've had expensive pre/pros and for me the solution doesn't work for me (even if the receiver has an issue it's easy enough to enjoy HT in a back-up system) and have know other people who have had issues with various brands (a pre/pro is going to be more complicated than an analog preamp).  Let's hope that the issue gets resolved for the OP who has waiting a long time.

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Re: Bryston Support Unresponsive
« Reply #13 on: 27 Jan 2016, 06:15 am »
I know I'm a tad off-topic, but Phil, for what it's worth, that's probably the route I'll go next time.

Bill310

Re: Bryston Support Unresponsive
« Reply #14 on: 27 Jan 2016, 03:15 pm »
I have been a Bryston Customer for 20+ Years. Mike and James have always been responsive and helpful.That seems to be the overwhelming sentiment in these forums.

We are only getting one side of the story and people are all jumping to the conclusion that Bryston is the problem. None of know if that is true and quite frankly at this point it is irrelevant.

My expectation is that Bryston will make things good if it is possible and reasonable. I own a company and like Bryston we would not engage in responding to any threads like this in any other manner than what James has done.

The problem with the internet is that not all of the facts are laid out like they would be in court and yet people jump in with opinions, views and comments while knowing  only one side of a story. In this case it seems that Bryston is being painted to some degree as the one wearing the black hat when none of us have all the facts.

There is apparently a software bug, James and Mike are both involved. Bryston does a good job in dealing with it's customers and James makes himself available on this forum which is startling and shows their commitment.

James availability on this forum allows any one of us to send him a PM if we have a problem. It would seem far more efficient to send James a PM  and avoid the drama  and excitement of creating a dog-pile of responses.

The truly disappointing thing about these types of threads is if Bryston can't fix the software problem (no matter what the cause) and if they replace the unit, the internet will take that as them bowing to the risk of bad press on the internet and the only reason Bryston gave the individual a new whatever is because they called them out.

Next time this type of  situation arises it might be far better to just PM James.


Phil A

Re: Bryston Support Unresponsive
« Reply #15 on: 27 Jan 2016, 03:51 pm »



Next time this type of  situation arises it might be far better to just PM James.

I agree.  It is much better to try multiple people in any company.  Besides just slipping thru the cracks, there can be many reasons why a response is slow (email issue, personal issue, etc.).  I'm not a big fan of public lashings.  If I don't get satisfaction after multiple tries, I escalate it where it belongs.  For example, probably over a year ago, I ordered stuff from a popular online audio site.  They advertised free shipping over a certain amount, which was met.  I paid via Paypal.  For whatever reason, their system overrode my PayPal address to something that was in their system from my last order just over a year and a half before the present one.  I initially contacted them and was told to charge it and I'll get a complete credit when the stuff made its way back to them.  I did that.  Then they hit me with shipping/restocking, etc.  After a month of trying to straighten it out (even had an email from PayPal confirming they screwed up) and telling them I'd start the process of resolving it starting with a Better Business Bureau complaint, I did just that.  The customer service manager apologized several times.  They wanted me to kill the Business Bureau complaint and I told them no - that I'd give them an email indicating the facts including that the issue is now resolved.  I told them I made more than reasonable effort to resolve the issue with them and it was now their responsibility to deal with what they did and not to hold customers accountable for their internal system problems.

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Re: Bryston Support Unresponsive
« Reply #16 on: 27 Jan 2016, 07:49 pm »
FWIW, for the 3-4 times that I have had service questions over the past 10+ years, the response to e-mails has been poor.  Phone calls have been more productive and actual service has been outstanding.

Steve

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Re: Bryston Support Unresponsive
« Reply #17 on: 28 Jan 2016, 12:14 am »
FWIW, for the 3-4 times that I have had service questions over the past 10+ years, the response to e-mails has been poor.  Phone calls have been more productive and actual service has been outstanding.

Steve

+1

patrickm

Re: Bryston Support Unresponsive
« Reply #18 on: 28 Jan 2016, 02:12 pm »
I've really had a mixed bag.  When I had an issue with my B100 sst, the email discussion was very responsive and when I drove it up to the Bryston factory, I was greeted as a long awaited friend.  However, I recently purchased a BDA-3 and had an issue with it [as documented in another thread on this forum].  I used the Bryston website technical link to submit my questions/concerns but heard nothing back.  The problem was solved via discussion with other participants on AudioCircle [kudos!].  In the end, my BDA-3 is working perfectly now... I just should have received the fix/solution via Bryston proper. 

Still a huge fan and looking forward to auditioning a pair of 7B3!

stonedeaf

Re: Bryston Support Unresponsive
« Reply #19 on: 29 Jan 2016, 02:13 am »
I've never owned a current Bryston model - but have contacted Mike via e-mail several times about frankly obscure questions about the two 1B preamps I own. One of my questions led to him replying that he'd have to look into it. I anticipated this was a polite brush off and could hardly blame him (30 year old -long discontinued product). A couple of weeks latter he got back to me  -he'd had to take the cover off a "museum" piece  IB that they keep there and look it over to get a answer for me - try asking any other manufacturer's service manager about a product that's been discontinued for 20 years or so. The silence will be deafening.