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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #160 on: 13 Jul 2016, 05:38 pm »
DIY is the way to go! The cabinets don't look to be that hard to build. You don't have to deal with crossovers because of the plate amps. MDF is cheap. If you wanted a premium finish without investing the work, you could have them painted professionally at an auto body repair specialist.

I completely agree ratacat but some people have more money than time, so for them pre-made is the way to go.

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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #161 on: 26 Jul 2016, 08:41 pm »
Doing a finished  pair of cabinets for a fellow. He is going with the rear grills  and wanted a way of  having the wiring exit the cabinets without interferring with the rear grills. He did not want  to use a  4 pole panel connector  on the cabinets ....
So just before the wiring  bundle gets to the grill, I created a little passage  that  will allow  2 twisted pairs of the solid core 16ga wire to pass through. Takes a bit of mucking around to get the  pairs through, but once they are both in,  it's actually a good fit and once the no rez is in place, the wiring will be hidden away




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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #162 on: 26 Jul 2016, 10:19 pm »
Doing a finished  pair of cabinets for a fellow. He is going with the rear grills  and wanted a way of  having the wiring exit the cabinets without interferring with the rear grills. He did not want  to use a  4 pole panel connector  on the cabinets ....
So just before the wiring  bundle gets to the grill, I created a little passage  that  will allow  2 twisted pairs of the solid core 16ga wire to pass through. Takes a bit of mucking around to get the  pairs through, but once they are both in,  it's actually a good fit and once the no rez is in place, the wiring will be hidden away




jay

 The old drill one hole to meet up with the other hole trick :thumb: Used in the alarm industry for many years with varying results, depending on how deep you have to go and how big of a hole you can drill. Nicely done Jay!

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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #163 on: 26 Jul 2016, 11:28 pm »
Hey Jay, is that pair going to be flush edges top and bottom?  I have been considering that and would like to see how they look.

Best,
Ed

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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #164 on: 27 Jul 2016, 12:14 am »
Is it possible to put the amp inside or it wouldn't fit?

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« Reply #165 on: 27 Jul 2016, 12:35 am »
Is it possible to put the amp inside or it wouldn't fit?

The amp won't fit and you need to get to them to dial them in. They are not bad looking at all and in my case people seem interested in what they do so it's kind of fun. PeterJ has a thread going where he is hiding the amps in a unique and cool design but the skies the limit as to what is possible. 

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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #166 on: 27 Jul 2016, 12:46 am »
Hey Jay, is that pair going to be flush edges top and bottom?  I have been considering that and would like to see how they look.

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Ed

Yup, they'll be flush top and bottom, I'll lpost  pics as progress is made


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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #167 on: 27 Jul 2016, 03:37 am »
Is it possible to put the amp inside or it wouldn't fit?

As Greg said, I too get a  lot of interest  in the plate amps, people are curious .  Really, if a person wanted, they could  drop the boxes right up on top  of the subs and proudly display them :) 
Sorry, haven't switch my amps over to the new Midnight Purple boxes but here is one plopped on top  of one of Don's  old  Teal triples, gotta get those amps  swapped
over


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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #168 on: 28 Jul 2016, 02:35 am »
Because  these flat packs use  screws to  secure and  "clamp" the base ( eliminates the need for  4 long clamps reaching from end to end),  I build them upsaide down. I don't  glue the   side panels and  baffle down to the top (origninally upside down on the bottom).
Once you get the  baffle and braces  glued into the sde panels (this assembly sits on the dowels in the inverted top), you can  glue on the base and secure with screws. Clamp   with a couple clamps  across the braces  and one front  to back  on the braces, let it set like that for   an hour  or 2.
Flip it over and pop the lid off.  Apply your glue and  clamp the lid downn onto the dowels, I always let it set  like this overnight



Ed,  here are a cou0ple shots of the first cabinet  after  it's been unclamped, flush trimmed,  sealed on  exposed cut edges, and  a  light sanding





jay


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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #169 on: 28 Jul 2016, 02:43 am »
Thanks for that Jay, much appreciated.  I like it :thumb:, I think that is the direction I am going to go.  What type of finish will you go with?

Best,
Ed

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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #170 on: 28 Jul 2016, 02:53 am »
Thanks for that Jay, much appreciated.  I like it :thumb:, I think that is the direction I am going to go.  What type of finish will you go with?

Best,
Ed

These are going to have a  .5" roundover added to the front vertical edges. They'll be black inside (bafles and side panels).  The   cabinets themselves will be  veneered in  India Apple wood  top coated in stain lacquer to match the  persons  current speakers, should be really cool   :thumb:

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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #171 on: 28 Jul 2016, 02:00 pm »
These are going to have a  .5" roundover added to the front vertical edges. They'll be black inside (bafles and side panels).  The   cabinets themselves will be  veneered in  India Apple wood  top coated in stain lacquer to match the  persons  current speakers, should be really cool   :thumb:

jay

There's a wood I've never heard of, so I Googled...gotta love Google images! Also known as Timeo...pretty stuff. Are the other speakers same? Are you doing the finishing? You know final photos are required assuming you can, of course

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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #172 on: 28 Jul 2016, 03:31 pm »
Hey Peter
I have nicknamed Google " The Oracle".... " ask the Oracle" is  becoming a common phras around here  :lol:
Some places  seem to call it Timeo, some  India Apple Wood, it does look like nice stuff  and the person's speakers are finished  in the same. Getting a  good match will be key,   from picutres  we've looked at, the color does seem to vary . Hoping  the supplier (still undecided) will work  with us to try and  get as close as possible.
I'm only doing the cabinet/prep work this time,  passing ths veneering off to a pro in town  I feel I'm almost  to the point where I could have done this  one but a couple more personal projects first.
Yes, the  person is fine with me posting pictures, there'll be some finished pic when we get there.... who knows, maybe we'll get a pic of  the customers system,  very nice   :)

jay

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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #173 on: 28 Jul 2016, 04:38 pm »
Hey Peter
I have nicknamed Google " The Oracle".... " ask the Oracle" is  becoming a common phras around here  :lol:
Some places  seem to call it Timeo, some  India Apple Wood, it does look like nice stuff  and the person's speakers are finished  in the same. Getting a  good match will be key,   from picutres  we've looked at, the color does seem to vary . Hoping  the supplier (still undecided) will work  with us to try and  get as close as possible.
I'm only doing the cabinet/prep work this time,  passing ths veneering off to a pro in town  I feel I'm almost  to the point where I could have done this  one but a couple more personal projects first.
Yes, the  person is fine with me posting pictures, there'll be some finished pic when we get there.... who knows, maybe we'll get a pic of  the customers system,  very nice   :)

jay

Jay,

Definitely send the supplier the most accurate pictures you can get of the current speakers, an physical sample would be even better if there are leftover pieces from the original project.

Don't expect anything more than close though. Each tree is different. The only way to get a perfect match is to buy enough sequentially matched pieces for the entire project at one time. 

That being said, again, the better the sample you can provide to the supplier the better the chances they can find a close match in their stock.

Mike

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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #174 on: 2 Aug 2016, 03:48 am »
Thanks Mike, appreciate the input. We're trying to get something matched up  now
Here's a couple more  pics..
A couple rounds of block sanding, roundovers on front  vetical edges cut and all magnet holes drilled.





I'll get the amp boxes glued up tomorrow

jay

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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #175 on: 6 Aug 2016, 02:41 am »
Here are a few more pics of another build, these will be a set of triples with the large / overhanging tops and bases with .5" roundovers on all outside edges. The fellow wants  all drivers facing forwards and front/rear grill frames.

A front and rear pic of one of the baffles showing all  pre-drilled  driver mounting holes and rouindovers  all on rear




Here are a couple shots of the base with roundovers,  installed inserts for spikes (Danny's 8mm spikes fit these), and the counter sunk screw holes that eliminate the need  for long clamps during glue up. 


One of the other side with locating dowels for the side panels


A few  of the cabinet all dry fit






Will get the other  cabinet dry fit  tomorrow  and   then get the  4 grill frames trimmed out
jay



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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #176 on: 6 Aug 2016, 03:11 am »



Very nice...I thought this was Tineo...with an N not a M?

Regardless, i like the wood and used it myself.
there is so much variation in the wood samples.
Getting a 'match' is very difficult.


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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #177 on: 6 Aug 2016, 04:39 pm »

Very nice...I thought this was Tineo...with an N not a M?

Regardless, i like the wood and used it myself.
there is so much variation in the wood samples.
Getting a 'match' is very difficult.


look at my avatar to see variations

Yes, it is Tineo... the way my fingers work we were lucky to get an "m"  :lol:
He's hoping for a  decent match especailly in regards to colour. He sent in pics of his existing cabinets then  was sent a  few pics of the sheets they selected/suggested  and are now sending.  fingers crossed !

jay

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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #178 on: 6 Aug 2016, 05:04 pm »
Yes, it is Tineo... the way my fingers work we were lucky to get an "m"  :lol:
He's hoping for a  decent match especailly in regards to colour. He sent in pics of his existing cabinets then  was sent a  few pics of the sheets they selected/suggested  and are now sending.  fingers crossed !

jay

Jay,

What source do you use for your veneer? My main source is Oakwood Veneer Co.

Mike

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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #179 on: 6 Aug 2016, 05:09 pm »
Yup, same place

jay