OB H-Frame / A370PEQ / HX800 amp Box Flat Packs

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Captainhemo

Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #140 on: 30 Jun 2016, 07:11 pm »
Looks great  Fliv  :thumb:
You did a super job of capturing the retro look with the subs,  love the inlaid grills 

jay

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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #141 on: 1 Jul 2016, 03:32 am »
It's hard to tell how far from the wall behind them the subs are. Three feet is good, five feet even better, if the room length allows it. You're right Jay, the inset grills give subs the 50's-60's look. Fliv, the H-frames look stained, but it must be paint. They could be veneered, but with the roundovers that would be pretty hard to do!

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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #142 on: 1 Jul 2016, 11:33 am »
Guys,

The H frames are painted. I sprayed them with several coats of an antique brown followed by 4-5 coats of poly. I wanted them to blend in with the Altecs as good as possible.  You are right that I should pull them out from the wall a little further but my space is limited. I'd say they about two feet right know. I will experiment with pulling them out a little further and leaving the Altecs in place. Danny is right. My next project with the room is to make some acoustic panels (Roxul) for a little room treatment. I hope to order the materials within the next few weeks.

Thanks for the suggestions guys.

Fliv

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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #143 on: 1 Jul 2016, 02:20 pm »
A six pack of Owens-Corning Semi-Rigid 703 2" fiberglass panels is under a hundred bucks. That's what all the room acoustics companies use. Just wrap the 2' x 4' panels in acoustically transparent material, and put one at each of the two first-reflection points on the side walls, on the wall behind each speaker, and a couple behind the listening position. Money well spent!

DTB300

Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #144 on: 1 Jul 2016, 06:10 pm »
I have had very good success with these products from GIK

http://www.gikacoustics.com/product/knauf-rigid-fiberglass-3-lb/

And after trying the Corning stuff, I liked working with Knauf better.

Captainhemo

Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #145 on: 12 Jul 2016, 06:27 pm »
Sent Steve and Greg over at  Sound Insight / GT Audio a set of dual H-framess for the Capitol City Audio fest, here's a little blurb on them

https://youtu.be/3nT_H_IEOVo


Maybe Steve or Greg will  jump in with some pics :)

jay
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zybar

Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #146 on: 12 Jul 2016, 06:32 pm »
Sent Steve and Greg over at  Sound Insight / GT Audio a set of dual H-framess for the Capitol City Audio fest, here's a little blurb on them

https://youtu.be/3nT_H_IEOVo


Maybe Steve or Greg will  juimp in with some pics :)

jay

Just saw this on Stereophile:



On sale for $4800 a pair for the OB subs!!!???  YIKES!!

George

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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #147 on: 12 Jul 2016, 06:42 pm »
Yes, Sound Insight SI-200, 2x12" H-Frame Servo Subs with A370PEQ amps in the GT Audioworks room.

They are being sold for $6000.00/pair built by Sound Insight.  The show price was $4800/pair.

I built my own.

TomS

Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #148 on: 12 Jul 2016, 07:34 pm »
Yes, Sound Insight SI-200, 2x12" H-Frame Servo Subs with A370PEQ amps in the GT Audioworks room.

They are being sold for $6000.00/pair built by Sound Insight.  The show price was $4800/pair.

I built my own.
And who is Sound Insight?

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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #149 on: 12 Jul 2016, 07:42 pm »

Tyson

Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #150 on: 12 Jul 2016, 08:14 pm »
Based on the actual quality of bass that these subs produce, they SHOULD sell for that much.  They kick the crap put of every other bass system out there.  Of course we are lucky that we can get world class performance for peanuts....

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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #151 on: 12 Jul 2016, 08:27 pm »
Based on the actual quality of bass that these subs produce, they SHOULD sell for that much.  They kick the crap put of every other bass system out there.  Of course we are lucky that we can get world class performance for peanuts....

+10 Tyson

zybar

Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #152 on: 12 Jul 2016, 08:38 pm »
Based on the actual quality of bass that these subs produce, they SHOULD sell for that much.  They kick the crap put of every other bass system out there.  Of course we are lucky that we can get world class performance for peanuts....

Agree on quality of the bass. 

Not in agreement on $6k price knowing the great deal on the flat pack and the cost of the amps.

George

Captainhemo

Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #153 on: 12 Jul 2016, 09:07 pm »
Agree on quality of the bass. 

Not in agreement on $6k price knowing the great deal on the flat pack and the cost of the amps.

George

A bit unussal  here as  "you" know the prices of the  parts etc, with other  high end  subs, you wouldn't be privy to that information,  I'd bet  no other sub in  this class  (are there any? :lol:) that  is sold as a finished product is sold with any less of a margin, probably just the opposite  actually

He's got the cost of the components (including all the little stuff), the flat packs, shipping on both,  his build time, finishing, supplies etc, it adds up fast

We'll be offering some finished sets in an automotove finish up here and they wont be far off the price  above , although they'll be in Cdn $...

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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #154 on: 12 Jul 2016, 09:20 pm »
Agree on quality of the bass. 

Not in agreement on $6k price knowing the great deal on the flat pack and the cost of the amps.

George
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mlundy57

Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #155 on: 12 Jul 2016, 09:29 pm »
Agree on quality of the bass. 

Not in agreement on $6k price knowing the great deal on the flat pack and the cost of the amps.

George

If you add up the cost of all the parts and materials (flatpacks, drivers, amps, No-Rez, threaded inserts, spikes, glue, sandpaper, wiring, Neutrik connectors, etc.) plus shipping to get everything to you you are going to be looking at close to $3k. And that is for unfinished cabinets. You still have to finish them. With this in mind, $6k for finished speakers and amp boxes is not even double the cost of materials; $4,800 is very good for having somebody do all the work for you. 

Even $6k is a very good deal compared to what speakers of this caliber would cost from a dealer if they had a mainstream headbadge.

Of course, the more of the work you can do yourself, the lower the cost. Such are the rewards of DIY.

Mike

 

zybar

Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #156 on: 12 Jul 2016, 09:39 pm »
If you add up the cost of all the parts and materials (flatpacks, drivers, amps, No-Rez, threaded inserts, spikes, glue, sandpaper, wiring, Neutrik connectors, etc.) plus shipping to get everything to you you are going to be looking at close to $3k. And that is for unfinished cabinets. You still have to finish them. With this in mind, $6k for finished speakers and amp boxes is not even double the cost of materials; $4,800 is very good for having somebody do all the work for you. 

Even $6k is a very good deal compared to what speakers of this caliber would cost from a dealer if they had a mainstream headbadge.

Of course, the more of the work you can do yourself, the lower the cost. Such are the rewards of DIY.

Mike

 

If those numbers are correct, I agree and change my opinion.

I had in my head that all the major parts (flat pack, amps, drivers) could be had for south of $2k.

George

Captainhemo

Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #157 on: 12 Jul 2016, 10:37 pm »
If those numbers are correct, I agree and change my opinion.

I had in my head that all the major parts (flat pack, amps, drivers) could be had for south of $2k.

George

Mike's numbers are spot on, he said what i was trying to say, he just was a bit more clear   :lol:
It adds up fast !!

jay

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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #158 on: 13 Jul 2016, 02:09 pm »
For parts and flatpack I think I spent around $2200. (Plus an additional $300 in tools!)  Considering the labor of assembling, sanding and painting, and then the end performance I agree.  I could totally see retail price with a premium finish would be around $10K.

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Re: OB H-Frame Flat Packs
« Reply #159 on: 13 Jul 2016, 03:19 pm »
DIY is the way to go! The cabinets don't look to be that hard to build. You don't have to deal with crossovers because of the plate amps. MDF is cheap. If you wanted a premium finish without investing the work, you could have them painted professionally at an auto body repair specialist.