Maher crystals

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Maher crystals
« on: 3 Dec 2015, 06:06 pm »
I have a Ayre preamp that has a smaller external power supply. A while back I thought I read that Alan suggested putting the crystals directly into appropriate power supplies and power cable connectors, rather then just stacking the plastic boxes on top. Can anyone confirm if this is safe to do? I'm tempted to crack open one of my large CBF's to pour into the power supply box. Thoughts?

TomS

Re: Maher crystals
« Reply #1 on: 3 Dec 2015, 06:24 pm »
I have a Ayre preamp that has a smaller external power supply. A while back I thought I read that Alan suggested putting the crystals directly into appropriate power supplies and power cable connectors, rather then just stacking the plastic boxes on top. Can anyone confirm if this is safe to do? I'm tempted to crack open one of my large CBF's to pour into the power supply box. Thoughts?
Not sure if Big Red Machine reads the lab circle, but you might ping him to see if he's done this.

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Re: Maher crystals
« Reply #2 on: 3 Dec 2015, 06:31 pm »
  It is OK to do so if you desire. You may like or dislike the effect. Results may vary. For me places where I found them most affective are the circuit breaker and incoming line to electrical panel. The other behind the outlet that feeds your system  [ goes in utility box behind outlet]
  Results vary in sonic singnature yielded. Some find them creating a brighter picture some say more dynamics. Have fun trying.


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Re: Maher crystals
« Reply #3 on: 3 Dec 2015, 07:49 pm »
I put the crystals inside a plastic Oyaide connector feeding my preamp.Killed the sound big time so I now use the cord for video applications only.

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Re: Maher crystals
« Reply #4 on: 3 Dec 2015, 09:48 pm »
As far as AC power is concerned, the UL rules do not permit putting stuff into plugs, sockets, junction boxes or outlet boxes. Anything involves in AC power has to be UL listed.

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Re: Maher crystals
« Reply #5 on: 3 Dec 2015, 09:54 pm »
As far as AC power is concerned, the UL rules do not permit putting stuff into plugs, sockets, junction boxes or outlet boxes. Anything involves in AC power has to be UL listed.

Where do I buy UL crystals?

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Re: Maher crystals
« Reply #6 on: 3 Dec 2015, 10:44 pm »
Anything involves in AC power has to be UL listed.

I don't think that's entirely true.  A Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory approval (UL, CSA, etc.) is generally not mandatory.

However, government entities won't buy unapproved equipment or devices, and most large businesses and wholesale and retail vendors will not buy or sell them.  As a manufacturer of unapproved equipment, you may not be able to purchase product liability insurance without it.

As a consumer end user you may get an insurance fire claim refused if it can be proved that a unapproved device was responsible, depending on the insurance company and local jurisdiction.

Outside of some rare local jurisdictions that require it, a small manufacturer can produce and sell equipment without approval although you take a bigger risk with product liability and your potential market of resellers will be severely reduced.

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Re: Maher crystals
« Reply #7 on: 3 Dec 2015, 10:59 pm »
UL certification is required by counties that decide to require it. Technically you can produce and sell all you want, but not legally sell in any county that requires it. In general the bigger a company is the less likely they are to purchase (for use or resale) anything not UL approved. However that obviously has nothing to do with parts of large scale equipment where so many one-off things are made.

However this isn't monitored for online sales, and it may not be applicable if you're not selling in the county required to.