BDA-3 DAC

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Re: BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #1220 on: 9 Mar 2020, 11:54 pm »
Has anyone compared the BDA-3.14 with the combination of the BDP-3 and the BDA-3 DAC? Has the BDA-314 the same issues with HDMI as the BDA-3 had, or are they resolved in the meantime? If only the BDA-314 was there before I bought my streamer!

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I own the BDP-3 and BDA-3, and if I were a betting man, I'd bet the separates would sound better than the 3.14 due to separate power supplies and other design technique. With the price clocking 8k in the US, the separates should sound better.

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« Reply #1221 on: 10 Mar 2020, 12:10 am »
I’ve  always preferred separates,main reason and they do:
What happens when the dac fails,what happens when the server/pre fails.
Beeen their a few times with the dac board toast.
Separates for me and they sound great
BTW have Bdp-2 +Bda-3
Actually a year ago the board in my bda-2 went toast,traded in for the 3.
Bryston replaced-it and it had maybe 2 months before warranty was done
Thanks Bryston for that.
No all in one for me,separates thank you very much.
 

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« Reply #1222 on: 10 Mar 2020, 01:22 am »
I’ve  always preferred separates,main reason and they do:
What happens when the dac fails,what happens when the server/pre fails.
Beeen their a few times with the dac board toast.
Separates for me and they sound great
BTW have Bdp-2 +Bda-3
Actually a year ago the board in my bda-2 went toast,traded in for the 3.
Bryston replaced-it and it had maybe 2 months before warranty was done
Thanks Bryston for that.
No all in one for me,separates thank you very much.

I had the BDP-2. Make sure you upgrade its Juiio or wihateve sound card to the new sound card. It makes a difference in the sound to me.

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« Reply #1223 on: 10 Mar 2020, 01:31 am »
Did the card upgrade years ago.
Thanks though.

gbaby

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« Reply #1224 on: 10 Mar 2020, 01:44 am »
Did the card upgrade years ago.
Thanks though.

You are straight. 8)

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« Reply #1225 on: 10 Mar 2020, 11:27 am »
hi James,

this may have been asked already...but....any thoughts on adding class D amplification to the 3.14...
a little all in one digital machine!  would be pretty slick..

thanks!
TJ

Hi TJ

Not really a fan of Class D at this point in time if linearity is the goal.

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« Reply #1226 on: 10 Mar 2020, 01:16 pm »
Somewhat simplistic, but a decent summary of amplification classes:

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-3kPRm36icW3/learn/which-amplifier-class-is-best.html

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« Reply #1227 on: 10 Mar 2020, 06:50 pm »
Hi TJ

Not really a fan of Class D at this point in time if linearity is the goal.

james

thanks James. i understand.
 

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« Reply #1228 on: 10 Mar 2020, 11:56 pm »
Somewhat simplistic, but a decent summary of amplification classes:

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-3kPRm36icW3/learn/which-amplifier-class-is-best.html

Class D may be alright for a sub amp. I have two Velodyne subs with them.

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« Reply #1229 on: 11 Mar 2020, 12:04 am »
Class D may be alright for a sub amp. I have two Velodyne subs with them.

what's a sub amp? you mean a woofer?   :scratch:

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« Reply #1230 on: 11 Mar 2020, 12:33 am »
what's a sub amp? you mean a woofer?   :scratch:

I have a Velodyne HGS-18 and HGS-12 subs and both have built in amplifiers for sub power.

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« Reply #1231 on: 11 Mar 2020, 12:47 am »
When I use the term "sub," I am speaking of both the (sub)woofer driver and its enclosure. The sub can be passive (no amp) or active (built in amp). The class D amps on my Veldoynes are1500 Class D Watts and 3,000 peak watts. I put them both in the same room and I like the effect of a balanced bass response all around. This is highly subjective though.

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« Reply #1232 on: 11 Mar 2020, 12:50 am »
^ thanks, gbaby, for the explanation. Have rarely heard it called a sub amp, but now I know.   :notworthy:

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« Reply #1233 on: 11 Mar 2020, 12:58 pm »
When I use the term "sub," I am speaking of both the (sub)woofer driver and its enclosure. The sub can be passive (no amp) or active (built in amp). The class D amps on my Veldoynes are1500 Class D Watts and 3,000 peak watts. I put them both in the same room and I like the effect of a balanced bass response all around. This is highly subjective though.

That's a LOT of watts for a sub.
What do you set your crossover freq at?

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« Reply #1234 on: 11 Mar 2020, 01:56 pm »
That's a LOT of watts for a sub.
What do you set your crossover freq at?

I set the crossover to 80Hz using the SP3. The Velodyne HGS-18 is -3db @ 16Hz so I guess it takes a lot of power to get that low even though you cannot hear 16Hz, only feel it.

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« Reply #1235 on: 13 Mar 2020, 10:13 am »
Hi All,

I am facing an issue on my BDA3 when changing tracks from PCM to DSD (and the other way around too): there is a loud pop from one speaker. input is USB from an external streamer. if the tracks are on a playist, no problems at all.

never had issues when input is HDMI instead.

any help? firmware is updated to latest version (early 2018 if I'm not wrong).

thanks in advance!

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Re: BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #1236 on: 13 Mar 2020, 11:13 am »
Hi All,

I am facing an issue on my BDA3 when changing tracks from PCM to DSD (and the other way around too): there is a loud pop from one speaker. input is USB from an external streamer. if the tracks are on a playist, no problems at all.

never had issues when input is HDMI instead.

any help? firmware is updated to latest version (early 2018 if I'm not wrong).

thanks in advance!

Hi Grant

Email Mike on this please - mpickett@bryston.com

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« Reply #1237 on: 13 Mar 2020, 12:18 pm »
Class D may be alright for a sub amp. I have two Velodyne subs with them.

I have the feeling Class D amplification has made advancements in the last decade or so....and can be respectfully used for amplification across the entire frequency range.   As James points, maybe not the best choice for linearity but....how do they sound? From a totally non-expert opinion (lol), I believe the 3.14 with a sweet ICE amp at 300 watts or so, would appeal to a wider market, maintain a slick narrow profile, and offer very high quality sound....but maybe I'm off my rocker.  Highly likely.  8)

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Re: BDA-3 DAC
« Reply #1238 on: 13 Mar 2020, 12:23 pm »
Hi TJ

Maybe develop an entry level less expensive Bryston product?

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« Reply #1239 on: 13 Mar 2020, 06:18 pm »
Hi TJ

Maybe develop an entry level less expensive Bryston product?

james

exactly.  :thumb: