Massdrop Airist $350/Soekris 1321 $465 R2R DACS

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Massdrop Airist $350/Soekris 1321 $465 R2R DACS
« on: 4 Sep 2019, 09:44 pm »
I'm curious if anyone has heard either of these yet. They seem to be operating under the radar while other names take center stage. Having listened to two modern R2R-based dacs I am converted. These are two of the more afforable models available, along with the Schiit Modi Multibit I reviewed earlier.

Airist: There was a lot of fanfare when announced, then some controversy over possible IP theft which seems to have been resolved, then a delayed roll out. It's been available now for some months and feedback seems to be good. It's appreciators are naturally centered around the Massdrop crowd, but it deserves more exposure. At only $350, it's less than half the price of a Denafrips.






Soekris 1321: Having built one of the Soekris diy boards I am somewhat biased, but it also means I know what these dacs are capable of. The 1321 is the entry-level model at only $463 US/420euro. Soekris operates outside of the audiophile market and as such isn't really into jumping the marketing/promotional hoops. But with the new advanced 1421/1541 models, word is starting to spread. Even better, a little technical know how allows you to change filter settings, potentially elevating performance further. Needless to say I prefer the diy boards for best price/performance ratio.





Any other budget R2Rs out there waiting to be discovered?




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Re: Massdrop Airist $350/Soekris 1321 $465 R2R DACS
« Reply #1 on: 7 Sep 2019, 05:19 pm »
Having listened to two modern R2R-based dacs I am converted.

What two modern DACs converted you to R2R?  I test drove the Sabaj D5 you mentioned in another thread and found it to be a very nice sounding DAC, what did these two R2Rs do better?

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Ed

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Re: Massdrop Airist $350/Soekris 1321 $465 R2R DACS
« Reply #2 on: 8 Sep 2019, 12:02 am »
What two modern DACs converted you to R2R?  I test drove the Sabaj D5 you mentioned in another thread and found it to be a very nice sounding DAC, what did these two R2Rs do better?

Thanks,
Ed

The Modi Multibit and the Soekris 1021. Even though the Modi's presentation wasn't my cup of tea, both it and the Soekris present music with a naturalness, texture and space around instruments I haven't gotten from Delta Sigma dacs. I've also heard older R2R dacs with chips like AD1865 and PCM1704 some years ago which I also liked but are now hard to find affordably. These newer iterations seem to be best of both worlds at reasonable prices. I could live with the D5 though no problem. So good.

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Re: Massdrop Airist $350/Soekris 1321 $465 R2R DACS
« Reply #3 on: 8 Sep 2019, 04:40 am »
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Re: Massdrop Airist $350/Soekris 1321 $465 R2R DACS
« Reply #4 on: 8 Sep 2019, 03:53 pm »
I could live with the D5 though no problem. So good.

Sounds like they hit the nail squarely on the head when they say on the Sabaj website

"Good sound quality must be stressful, with professional to meet all your picky."

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Re: Massdrop Airist $350/Soekris 1321 $465 R2R DACS
« Reply #5 on: 8 Sep 2019, 07:05 pm »
Had engineering buddy build me a dac using the Soekris 1941 balanced output board. Was using Roon & Tidal now switched to Euphony Stylus. Had the Soekris 1021 board previously,
  There is no comparison, the 1941 blows it away in every regard.

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Re: Massdrop Airist $350/Soekris 1321 $465 R2R DACS
« Reply #6 on: 11 Sep 2019, 12:07 am »
Had engineering buddy build me a dac using the Soekris 1941 balanced output board. Was using Roon & Tidal now switched to Euphony Stylus. Had the Soekris 1021 board previously,
  There is no comparison, the 1941 blows it away in every regard.

In stock form I don't doubt it. The 1921/1941s are a serious upgrade. Too bad Soekris doesn't promote those more. They are really easy to get up and running. I went all out on my 1021 mods though so I'm hoping it's not far behind if not equal. I botched my 1921 while modding it (stupid in retrospect), but maybe next year I'll try and rehabilitate it and compare. Very satisfied with the 1021 for now.

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Re: Massdrop Airist $350/Soekris 1321 $465 R2R DACS
« Reply #7 on: 11 Sep 2019, 12:09 am »
Sounds like they hit the nail squarely on the head when they say on the Sabaj website

"Good sound quality must be stressful, with professional to meet all your picky."

  :wink:

Yeah, that made me chuckle.

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Re: Massdrop Airist $350/Soekris 1321 $465 R2R DACS
« Reply #8 on: 21 Oct 2019, 04:22 pm »
Do all the Soekris DACS convert DSD to PCM?

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Re: Massdrop Airist $350/Soekris 1321 $465 R2R DACS
« Reply #9 on: 26 Oct 2019, 01:58 am »
FWIW:

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/massdrop-airist-r2r-dac-review.9565/

It would be nice to put the Sabaj D5 and MassDrop Airist in the same system with a subjective review of each since we now have all the objective data one needs.

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Anand.