Bryston - New Phono Products

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« Reply #40 on: 4 Jun 2017, 06:37 pm »
Thanks James, based on the input from a couple of the folks above I am now very encouraged to put the TF2 with the new capacitors in front of my BP 26 mm phono stage instead of buying an entire new MC phono stage to upgrade my current outboard MC stage.
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I'll be using either my existing Benz wood SL or a new ortofon Cadenza bronze. Both have an input of .4 MV with a 5 ohm and 10 ohm load respectively. Hopefully either cartridge will match well with the TF2 any thoughts would be appreciated.

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Hi Bill,

Yes you can still order the Phono stage internal with the BD-26.  Yes they are the same phono stage.

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« Reply #41 on: 4 Jun 2017, 11:26 pm »
A step-up Moving-Coil transformer is designed to accept the lower voltage output from the MC cartridge and increase the voltage to a point which is acceptable to the input stage of the standard MM phono section. The Bryston Moving-Coil step-up transformer is available in two versions...with a 20dB or a 30dB gain option. Your choice on which unit is most appropriate will be determined by the voltage output of your chosen cartridge.

•   From .1 to .2 mV we would recommend the 30dB version
•   At .3 mV we would say either version would work fine
•   From .4 to .5 mV or more we would recommend the 20dB version

An important point to consider when choosing which Step-up to use is you do not want to over-power or under-power the MM phono stage. Under-powering results in not having enough GAIN in the system and over-powering can result in voltage overload and the resultant distortion.


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Re: Bryston - New Phono Products
« Reply #42 on: 20 Jun 2017, 02:32 pm »
How old is the internal MM phono board for the B100? how does it sounds compare to this BMM new external unit?
I  don't know wich phono stage to buy.
Thanks Paolo


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« Reply #43 on: 20 Jun 2017, 03:41 pm »
How old is the internal MM phono board for the B100? how does it sounds compare to this BMM new external unit?
I  don't know wich phono stage to buy.
Thanks Paolo

Hi Polo

The internal phono board is about an 8 year old design.  The new board in the BMM is a new design using a slightly different circuit topology.

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« Reply #44 on: 20 Jun 2017, 05:51 pm »
Thank you so much for reply James .I'm Thinking about it and for sure the new BMM sound much better.I contact my dealer in Italy and The old phono card cost 890 euro instead of the BMM cost a Little more but it sounds better with new design and more flexibile equipment.For BMM I need the power supply too?No power available
 from my B 100 sst?

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« Reply #45 on: 20 Jun 2017, 06:09 pm »
Thank you so much for reply James .I'm Thinking about it and for sure the new BMM sound much better.I contact my dealer in Italy and The old phono card cost 890 euro instead of the BMM cost a Little more but it sounds better with new design and more flexibile equipment.For BMM I need the power supply too?No power available
 from my B 100 sst?

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Yes you will need the PS-3 power supply.

http://bryston.com/products/phono/PS-3.html

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« Reply #46 on: 20 Jun 2017, 07:32 pm »
Ok ,I also found an used MM phono card for Bryston B135 and the dealer tell me I can install it into my Bryston B100 sst,is it True?is this a new design like the BMM?

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« Reply #47 on: 20 Jun 2017, 07:35 pm »
Ok ,I also found an used MM phono card for Bryston B135 and the dealer tell me I can install it into my Bryston B100 sst,is it True?is this a new design like the BMM?

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I would assume its the older card as we have not sold any new cards in the B135's - just the B135 Cubed.

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« Reply #48 on: 21 Jun 2017, 07:56 am »


This is the pictures of phono card.
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« Reply #49 on: 21 Jun 2017, 03:36 pm »
OK this is the new board so make sure you get the mounting kit as well.

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« Reply #50 on: 22 Jun 2017, 08:53 am »
very well james ,Thanks for informations ,much appreciated.
I Hope the card arrives as Soon as possible and than I can report the results,however no dubts it's anoter amazing products from Bryston.

Paolo

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« Reply #51 on: 10 Jul 2017, 05:12 pm »
So to confirm, if I order the internal MM phono stage for my B135sst2, it will be the same as the BP-2 phono stage? And I can just plug it in or do I need an installation kit as well? I am using a ProJect Tube Box S but the internal stage will be a neater set up with one less set of interconnects.

By the way, I received my new BCD-3 this past week. Absolutely delighted. Thanks.

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« Reply #52 on: 10 Jul 2017, 08:08 pm »
So to confirm, if I order the internal MM phono stage for my B135sst2, it will be the same as the BP-2 phono stage? And I can just plug it in or do I need an installation kit as well? I am using a ProJect Tube Box S but the internal stage will be a neater set up with one less set of interconnects.

By the way, I received my new BCD-3 this past week. Absolutely delighted. Thanks.

Hi William

It does come with a mounting kit. 

Glad you like the CD player.

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« Reply #53 on: 10 Jul 2017, 08:31 pm »
Thanks James. It is the same as the BP-2 MM preamp?

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« Reply #54 on: 10 Jul 2017, 08:32 pm »
Thanks James. It is the same as the BP-2 MM preamp?

Yes it is.

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« Reply #55 on: 27 Aug 2017, 03:36 am »
OK this is the new board so make sure you get the mounting kit as well.

james

James, does this mean it is ok to install the phono card by myself or do I need to do it via my dealer to not loose my warranty?

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« Reply #56 on: 27 Aug 2017, 10:54 am »
James, does this mean it is ok to install the phono card by myself or do I need to do it via my dealer to not loose my warranty?

You can do it yourself but you have to remove the top (unplug first!) and use a few tools etc. - so we usually recommend the dealer does it for you.

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« Reply #57 on: 27 Sep 2017, 06:52 am »
Gents,

I inserted the TF-2 into my system last night. So the Ortofon Quintet Black feeds the TF-2 into the phono stage of the CJ preamp. I sure have plenty of gain now!

My system is very different than it was in CT, but I can’t tell yet which characteristics to attribute to room acoustics and which to the new cartridge. But I had imaging this evening way outside the speakers and good depth too. Dynamics of the Quintet Black are good and my system is resolving that well.

I played Surfer Girl and In My Room from a MoFi pressing of Surfer Girl and the staging was awesome, vocal presentation dead center.

Mike

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« Reply #58 on: 8 Oct 2017, 11:32 am »
Hi James,

I have a B135 Cubed with MM phono stage. Is possible to use the PS-3 with it and would there be any advantage in doing this?

Thanks,
Doug


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« Reply #59 on: 8 Oct 2017, 01:24 pm »
Hi Doug

No and there would not be any advantage.

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