Crown XLS- for the rest of us!

rodge827 · « **Reply #760 on:** 16 Dec 2014, 02:14 am »

Quote from: Tomy2Tone on 16 Dec 2014, 01:31 am

Just dropped off my Crown 1500's at FedEx to make their way to Salis Audio for some modding. Then get home and flipped on the news to find out today is the busiest shipping day of the year!

And of course they had to show a picture of a FedEx truck in an accident with about a million boxes scattered on the freeway!

Well if your amp arrives with tire marks across it then...

Tomy2Tone · « **Reply #761 on:** 16 Dec 2014, 02:23 am »

I tried going to the Post Office twice today but both times it was rediculoudly busy. FedEx was a breeze!

I popped the Job 225 back in the mix and forgot what a great amp it really is. It's similar to the Crown but with a little more body and soul, some would call it musical. It's a real nice amp. Whenever Ozarktom decides to sell his Job, somebody is going to get a great amp at a discount.

Folsom · « **Reply #762 on:** 16 Dec 2014, 07:41 pm »

Everyone is welcome to PM for getting their unit modified.

rodge827 · « **Reply #763 on:** 17 Dec 2014, 12:55 am »

FYI,
Was cruising through Lowes today and came across the Cedar Rings, $7.99 20pk.

OzarkTom · « **Reply #764 on:** 17 Dec 2014, 03:25 am »

Quote from: rodge827 on 17 Dec 2014, 12:55 am

FYI,
Was cruising through Lowes today and came across the Cedar Rings, $7.99 20pk.

Amazon went up in price, but now 5.99 for 20.

Folsom · « **Reply #765 on:** 17 Dec 2014, 03:30 am »

Quote from: OzarkTom on 17 Dec 2014, 03:25 am

Amazon went up in price, but now 5.99 for 20.

I think I'm going to use these for feet on different things for awhile, until a lathe comes into the picture.

zapper7 · « **Reply #766 on:** 17 Dec 2014, 04:39 am »

Out here in the desert, the best part of that "upgrade", the scent, lasts about 1.25 hours....and its winter and somewhat "soggy" here now.....good grief

rodge827 · « **Reply #767 on:** 17 Dec 2014, 02:44 pm »

Quote from: zapper7 on 17 Dec 2014, 04:39 am

Out here in the desert, the best part of that "upgrade", the scent, lasts about 1.25 hours....and its winter and somewhat "soggy" here now.....good grief

I have 3 bags of the rings under and on top of all my gear.
The room smells great until the bean dip kicks in.

a.wayne · « **Reply #768 on:** 17 Dec 2014, 03:08 pm »

So that stuff really does something or is it the placebo woody effect ...............

steve f · « **Reply #769 on:** 17 Dec 2014, 05:07 pm »

I just got an email from Amazon. The Crown XLS series is back on sale. The price is also lower on the 1500. I just ordered another. I'm thinking vertical crossovers with almost no speaker cables. For a guy like me who is always building speakers, this is great.

Steve

Tomy2Tone · « **Reply #770 on:** 17 Dec 2014, 05:21 pm »

The tour amp just left Chicago..and is headed for New Jersey.

Exit 58 to be exact!

rodge827- Jersey

mjosef- Brooklyn

SteveFord- PA

jtsnead- MD

Freo-1- MA

zapper7- NV

Peter J- ID

S Clark- TX

gregfisk- WA

Alan · « **Reply #771 on:** 17 Dec 2014, 07:27 pm »

Quote from: steve f on 17 Dec 2014, 05:07 pm

I just got an email from Amazon. The Crown XLS series is back on sale. The price is also lower on the 1500. I just ordered another. I'm thinking vertical crossovers with almost no speaker cables. For a guy like me who is always building speakers, this is great.

Steve

I was looking for comments on the crossover and dsp functions of this amp. Please keep us informed.

OzarkTom · « **Reply #772 on:** 17 Dec 2014, 11:07 pm »

Quote from: steve f on 17 Dec 2014, 05:07 pm

I just got an email from Amazon. The Crown XLS series is back on sale. The price is also lower on the 1500. I just ordered another. I'm thinking vertical crossovers with almost no speaker cables. For a guy like me who is always building speakers, this is great.

Steve

That should sound great, post some pics as you build them.

*Scotty* · « **Reply #773 on:** 18 Dec 2014, 12:52 am »

The Crown XLS series doesn't have any DSP functionality, you would need the Crown DSi series for DSP capability.
The curious thing is that the Crown DSi 2000 is speced differently from the Crown XLS 2000. The DSi 2000 is rated at 475 watts at 1kHz into 8 ohms, 100 watts per channel more into 8ohms than the XLS 2000 and it weighs almost twice as much. 19lbs for the DSi 2000 vs. 10.8 for the XLS 2000. A 1% clipping point is even given for a couple of load conditions.
Link to DSi Series datasheet. http://www.crownaudio.com/media/wysiwyg/DSi/DSi_Data_Sheet.pdf
The DSi 1000 is on my short list for DSP enabled bass room correction via multiple subs.
Scotty

dlaloum · « **Reply #774 on:** 18 Dec 2014, 01:29 am »

Not much talk about inside topology other than the PSU... I doubt it is a drivecore amp. May not be class d

*Scotty* · « **Reply #775 on:** 18 Dec 2014, 01:51 am »

The DSi power consumption vs heat dissipation looks a lot like a Class A/B amp. The power dissipated as heat driving a 2ohm load at 1/3 power with pink noise is about 3.75 times higher than its XLS counterpart.
Scotty

DaveC113 · « **Reply #776 on:** 18 Dec 2014, 01:52 am »

Quote from: *Scotty* on 18 Dec 2014, 12:52 am

The Crown XLS series doesn't have any DSP functionality, you would need the Crown DSi series for DSP capability.
The curious thing is that the Crown DSi 2000 is speced differently from the Crown XLS 2000. The DSi 2000 is rated at 475 watts at 1kHz into 8 ohms, 100 watts per channel more into 8ohms than the XLS 2000 and it weighs almost twice as much. 19lbs for the DSi 2000 vs. 10.8 for the XLS 2000. A 1% clipping point is even given for a couple of load conditions.
Link to DSi Series datasheet. http://www.crownaudio.com/media/wysiwyg/DSi/DSi_Data_Sheet.pdf
The DSi 1000 is on my short list for DSP enabled bass room correction via multiple subs.
Scotty

Agreed, I want to try out the DSi too. In general I don't like the idea of DSP or want it anywhere near my speakers but it's worth trying for the bass imo.

I don't think it's Drivecore either but still worth a shot.

OzarkTom · « **Reply #777 on:** 18 Dec 2014, 03:32 am »

I wonder if Roscoe has tried bi-amping yet?

For Mr_Bill and other Magnepan owners, I found a mini review on driving the Magnepans with a Drivecore 2000 amp.

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/crown-drivecore-amps-in-the-house.337938/

brklnclln · « **Reply #778 on:** 18 Dec 2014, 05:23 am »

Quote from: roscoeiii on 14 Dec 2014, 09:15 pm

Speaking of experience with other amps, I think someone asked about other amp experience. Here is a list of other amps I've owned at one point or another. I've also heard many more in other, less familiar systems, though then the amp's contributions are more difficult to judge.

First Watt F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, M2 (from my low powered days)
Atmasphere S30
Miniwatt N3
Pass Aleph 30
Rogue Stereo 90 (upgraded to Super Magnum)
Class D SDS 125
Butler 2250

Hmmm, what else am I forgetting?

How did the Crown stack up against the Class D amp? I'm toying with the idea of getting the Crown, a Class D SDS, or building a Hyperx UCD based amp.

a.wayne · « **Reply #779 on:** 18 Dec 2014, 10:09 am »

The XTI have (dsp) the features you seek and still uses drivecore ......