BRYSTON CD PLAYER SURVEY

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« Reply #120 on: 5 Aug 2014, 02:31 pm »
James,
How long before we see the release of the BOT? With the release of the BOT I would no longer need to buy a new CD player. I purchased a BDP-2 recently and use it in the 2 channel system. I moved my BDP-1 to the home theater. I would move my BCD-1 to the home theater once the BOT is released.

We are hoping this fall for the BOT - we are still working on the software and hardware.

james

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« Reply #121 on: 5 Aug 2014, 02:50 pm »
We are hoping this fall for the BOT - we are still working on the software and hardware.

james

James, if Bryston does release the BOT, will you still be considering a CD player?

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« Reply #122 on: 5 Aug 2014, 03:31 pm »
Yes, all the companies I mentioned are European though some of them make their equipment overseas. But like I said, Japanese make brands make CD players as well.

I don't think my list is made irrelevant by the fact some of these players offer digital inputs. Those are the signs of our times but not exactly necessary and this is obvious for 2 reasons:

1. there are more companies that offer their CD players without digital inputs and
2. Naim, a brand directly comparable to Bryston in terms of pedigree and breeding (just very different in sound) doesn't even offer digital outputs on their players, confident in that their DACs are more than good enough  Well said.  :thumb:

Bryston must have a good supply of electrical components for the BCD-1. I mean, they need to considering their extremely generous guarantees. Using a different optical drive and D/A chip might not involve significant investments in terms of research because they already built a strong foundation with the BCD-1. At least in my opinion.

Precisely for this reason, if Bryston wants to make a new CD player, then I completely endorse them! Making a CD player today is a bold move for companies of this size and should be welcomed with praise, not critique.

Some still quite appreciate the physical "relationship" with their music.

Cheers!
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« Reply #123 on: 5 Aug 2014, 03:34 pm »
  Yes  according to  James they held on to a good number of drives to address any future repairs to the bcd-1. I would think that would be the case for the new player as well.   :thumb:

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« Reply #124 on: 5 Aug 2014, 09:50 pm »
 James do you thing that the BR2 would work the new possible new player?

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« Reply #125 on: 5 Aug 2014, 10:22 pm »
James do you thing that the BR2 would work the new possible new player?

Yes the remote codes would be the same.

james

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« Reply #126 on: 5 Aug 2014, 11:07 pm »
 :thumb: :thumb:

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« Reply #127 on: 6 Aug 2014, 07:14 pm »
  Yes  according to  James they held on to a good number of drives to address any future repairs to the bcd-1. I would think that would be the case for the new player as well.   :thumb:

May have to take advantage of that stockpile as my BCD-1 has been acting up more than ever.
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=77488.new#new

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« Reply #128 on: 6 Aug 2014, 07:18 pm »
May have to take advantage of that stockpile as my BCD-1 has been acting up more than ever.
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=77488.new#new

If anyone needs a spare player that they want to get there are 3 on Audiogon now too - http://app.audiogon.com/listings?utf8=%E2%9C%93&global_search_text=BCD-1


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« Reply #129 on: 6 Aug 2014, 07:32 pm »
If anyone needs a spare player that they want to get there are 3 on Audiogon now too - http://app.audiogon.com/listings?utf8=%E2%9C%93&global_search_text=BCD-1

Just left a voice message for Mike at Bryston, hopefully we'll get this resolved as I had it in for the same problem back in 2010 but it was very intermittent and not detected when it was on the bench. Anyway back on topic.

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« Reply #130 on: 7 Aug 2014, 04:16 am »
Just left a voice message for Mike at Bryston, hopefully we'll get this resolved as I had it in for the same problem back in 2010 but it was very intermittent and not detected when it was on the bench. Anyway back on topic.

Any playback method (disc or files) can have glitches.  There is nothing that is perfect.  One thing with Bryston you don't have to worry about customer service problems.

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« Reply #131 on: 7 Aug 2014, 10:02 am »
May have to take advantage of that stockpile as my BCD-1 has been acting up more than ever.
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=77488.new#new
   What is the nature of the problem  ? :scratch:

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« Reply #132 on: 7 Aug 2014, 04:03 pm »
   What is the nature of the problem  ? :scratch:

Difficult to exactly describe the actual problem, way back when.. I thought it may have been due to a dirty disc, dust particles or whatever but visual inspection or playing over the suspect section of the disc did not repeat the aberration, but the symptomatic ”tick”, “pop” or most recently a “hiccup” which is a momentary interruption for a fraction of a second of the music and appears to be random and sometime effects every disc and some sessions are played flawlessly.
When I originally sent the BCD-1 to Bryston back in 2010 they had it on the bench for a few days and had given it a new firm-ware update and a clean bill of health.
James even offered to drive down to TO and swap out mine for his, and in hindsight I should have taken up his offer just to confirm if indeed my unit was playing games.

But most recently the glitch appears to be happening more frequently but still random, for example; currently I’m reviewing/comparing Sennheiser’s HD700 and HD800 headphones with the BCD-1 directly connected with balanced interconnects to the BHA-1, on Wednesday over a 3-4 hour session with every disc  I experienced the above mentioned glitches, last night using the exact same selections of music over a similar time frame there was only one hiccup. ..so what’s the problem ??? good question!!! When it happens there are really no more than 2 or 3 per track but it is sure is irritating.  :x

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« Reply #133 on: 7 Aug 2014, 05:58 pm »
Difficult to exactly describe the actual problem, way back when.. I thought it may have been due to a dirty disc, dust particles or whatever but visual inspection or playing over the suspect section of the disc did not repeat the aberration, but the symptomatic ”tick”, “pop” or most recently a “hiccup” which is a momentary interruption for a fraction of a second of the music and appears to be random and sometime effects every disc and some sessions are played flawlessly.
When I originally sent the BCD-1 to Bryston back in 2010 they had it on the bench for a few days and had given it a new firm-ware update and a clean bill of health.
James even offered to drive down to TO and swap out mine for his, and in hindsight I should have taken up his offer just to confirm if indeed my unit was playing games.

But most recently the glitch appears to be happening more frequently but still random, for example; currently I’m reviewing/comparing Sennheiser’s HD700 and HD800 headphones with the BCD-1 directly connected with balanced interconnects to the BHA-1, on Wednesday over a 3-4 hour session with every disc  I experienced the above mentioned glitches, last night using the exact same selections of music over a similar time frame there was only one hiccup. ..so what’s the problem ??? good question!!! When it happens there are really no more than 2 or 3 per track but it is sure is irritating.  :x

I am sorry to hear that Rob!

I think Bryston would be willing to help. BCD-1 is a spectacular machine and I regret not buying a demo sample at 40% the price. Have it looked at by Bryston and hang on to it.

I am happy you're liking the HD700 and HD800 though! Fabulous headphones! I am considering the HD700 even though I already own the HD800. Like with the BCD-1, I fear these are the best Sennheiser years and they will not come again.

Best wishes!
Antun

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« Reply #134 on: 8 Aug 2014, 05:40 pm »
  I would think James and the gang could shed some light on this issue. It seems like a one off kind of thing. :scratch:

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« Reply #135 on: 8 Aug 2014, 05:44 pm »
  I would think James and the gang could shed some light on this issue. It seems like a one off kind of thing. :scratch:

Yes its' new to me so I am thinking static build up or drive laser issues.

james

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« Reply #136 on: 8 Aug 2014, 05:58 pm »
I've had static issues in the past resulting in CDs or SACDs not playing properly or dust on a laser (if it is more than dust it may need to be replaced).  I got one of those anti-static devices (forget which one - a bit bigger than a normal pen) and it helped and also helped when regular computer files could not be read.  I've also done compressed air and have one of those CDs with a brush to clean the laser.  It helped many moons ago.

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« Reply #137 on: 9 Aug 2014, 12:27 pm »
CDs with brushes and cleaning liquids are not a good idea. Laser assemblies were never meant to come in physical contact with foreign objects. I suspect these "saw ground" in tape machines because these, in point of fact, did need maintenance and this meant cleaning the heads, capstans and pinch rollers. Their "digital counterparts" never really benefitted from the same approach, not in my experience. But I think we're derailing the thread here...

James, if it is not a secret, how many of these CD players would you need to sell in order to make the project worthwhile?

Cheers!
Antun

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« Reply #138 on: 9 Aug 2014, 12:32 pm »
CDs with brushes and cleaning liquids are not a good idea. Laser assemblies were never meant to come in physical contact with foreign objects. I suspect these "saw ground" in tape machines because these, in point of fact, did need maintenance and this meant cleaning the heads, capstans and pinch rollers. Their "digital counterparts" never really benefitted from the same approach, not in my experience. But I think we're derailing the thread here...

James, if it is not a secret, how many of these CD players would you need to sell in order to make the project worthwhile?

Cheers!
Antun

Just ONE if it really sounds great  :D

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« Reply #139 on: 9 Aug 2014, 02:10 pm »
Just ONE if it really sounds great  :D

LOLs!!! I knew you were gonna say that! :green:

Hey, others want to know up-front whether they'll make mega-bucks or not even before they actually make something but you fellas, you do it from the heart! Good to know there are companies like that!  :thumb: