Exotica 3's

robcentola · « **Reply #180 on:** 7 Jul 2014, 06:44 pm »

Absolutely beautiful! Congrats!

sfox7076 · « **Reply #181 on:** 7 Jul 2014, 07:46 pm »

Thanks.

mintchris · « **Reply #182 on:** 7 Jul 2014, 08:01 pm »

Very cute! Congratulations!!

Big Red Machine · « **Reply #183 on:** 7 Jul 2014, 08:36 pm »

Yes, and gravity defying as well!

robcentola · « **Reply #184 on:** 7 Jul 2014, 09:48 pm »

Quote from: Big Red Machine on 7 Jul 2014, 08:36 pm

Yes, and gravity defying as well!

robcentola · « **Reply #185 on:** 14 Jul 2014, 12:40 pm »

Anyone Have any updates?

Big Red Machine · « **Reply #186 on:** 14 Jul 2014, 01:09 pm »

Quote from: robcentola on 14 Jul 2014, 12:40 pm

Anyone Have any updates?

Not sure what the others are doing who are ordering. Mine are top secret (mostly because what I want may not be possible).

sfox7076 · « **Reply #187 on:** 14 Jul 2014, 01:55 pm »

Haven't heard much from Jim beyond our initial discussions and my order. No movement on my production tracker either. I am not in a huge hurry to get the speakers, so it isn't a huge deal to not hear anything. That said, I am totally interested in what BRM is planning. I am sure that once I find out what he has had done I will wish I waited, but such is life, right? In the mean time, I am lining up some custom built tube mono-blocks to mate with them, and cleaning out a bunch of other stuff from my audio stash to make room for the new one. Yes, 2 kids and 2 adults in 1450 sq. ft. is tight, but this is NYC, so it is actually palatial.

Shawn

sfox7076 · « **Reply #188 on:** 14 Jul 2014, 03:26 pm »

Jim informs me that they will be 42” tall, 10.5” wide and 16” deep using 1" MDF.

Shawn

robcentola · « **Reply #189 on:** 14 Jul 2014, 05:43 pm »

I'm really excited for you both! I can't wait to see what happens.

Top secret eh? I can only wonder!

sfox7076 · « **Reply #190 on:** 17 Jul 2014, 11:37 pm »

FYI: Cap upgrades on the Exotica 3s for Mundruf Silver in Oil = $2500.

DMurphy · « **Reply #191 on:** 18 Jul 2014, 03:19 am »

Quote from: sfox7076 on 17 Jul 2014, 11:37 pm

FYI: Cap upgrades on the Exotica 3s for Mundruf Silver in Oil = $2500.

So you're not doing it, right?

sfox7076 · « **Reply #192 on:** 18 Jul 2014, 10:30 am »

Correct. Not worth it... Though it was only six caps total. I have questions on changing cap values, but that is because I assume that a 47uf cap can replace a 50uf cap as well (assuming voltage is the same). Why have cap values changed over the years? So weird.

JonnyFive · « **Reply #193 on:** 18 Jul 2014, 12:38 pm »

Quote from: sfox7076 on 17 Jul 2014, 11:37 pm

FYI: Cap upgrades on the Exotica 3s for Mundruf Silver in Oil = $2500.

There's only one set of caps for the tweeter, right? You could go Mundorf Supreme or SonicCaps to get the cost down.

I upgraded Mundorf SIO in the tweeter and Mundorf Supreme in the mid of my SS8s, but I highly doubt it made a difference in the end.

sfox7076 · « **Reply #194 on:** 18 Jul 2014, 01:38 pm »

According to Jim there are three values total to replace. 13, 15 and 30uf. So you have to run some in parallel to get where you need to be... None are really cheap to get to and I wouldn't want to mix cap brands. I had a bad experience with that once (longer story than I care to tell).

JonnyFive · « **Reply #195 on:** 18 Jul 2014, 02:11 pm »

Quote from: sfox7076 on 18 Jul 2014, 01:38 pm

According to Jim there are three values total to replace. 13, 15 and 30uf. So you have to run some in parallel to get where you need to be... None are really cheap to get to and I wouldn't want to mix cap brands. I had a bad experience with that once (longer story than I care to tell).

You can do different caps in each of the crossover sections without a problem. For the speakers with the passive crossovers, many people upgrade just the tweeter caps, some do the mids as well. The Solens are more than adequate in the bass section so lots of people leave that untouched. YMMV.

Big Red Machine · « **Reply #196 on:** 18 Jul 2014, 02:13 pm »

I weighed 3 parameters in deciding to remain with the brand Jim offers: what I heard with his "stock" parts is fantastic, the cost of upgrading as I and others have discovered is ridiculously expensive, the Solens(?) Jim uses are still a very above-average component.

JonnyFive · « **Reply #197 on:** 18 Jul 2014, 02:32 pm »

Quote from: Big Red Machine on 18 Jul 2014, 02:13 pm

I weighed 3 parameters in deciding to remain with the brand Jim offers: what I heard with his "stock" parts is fantastic, the cost of upgrading as I and others have discovered is ridiculously expensive, the Solens(?) Jim uses are still a very above-average component.

Completely agree. I've seen crossovers from other more expensive speakers that don't use such high quality components.

I did some checking, and Sonic Cap G1s are available in all those values and aren't too expensive.

DMurphy · « **Reply #198 on:** 18 Jul 2014, 02:57 pm »

If there is a difference in the sound of caps (and I'm not saying there is), the difference (notice I didn't say "improvement") will be most audible in the tweeter section. And that's the cheapest circuit to upgrade. So if you'll lose even 10 minutes of sleep wondering whether you should have spent more on caps, put the next line up in the tweeter section. I've done that several times for my customers.

sfox7076 · « **Reply #199 on:** 18 Jul 2014, 04:31 pm »

I am fine with the Solens if I am not going way up the chain. I just thought people should know as Jim's webpage also sets forth cap upgrades as a possibility. I plan for this to be my speaker for a long long time. So, I ordered them and thought in the middle that I should look into a cap upgrade. The cost turned out to be much higher than I thought. I passed that on as well. No need to discuss this a ton.