Birch Acoustics

GT Audio Works · « **Reply #20 on:** 6 May 2014, 04:00 pm »

Quote from: Scottmoose on 6 May 2014, 03:57 pm

A good driver of its type.

Whatever the views on the driver, I for one am simply glad that there is another small loudspeaker manufacturer out there. Good luck to them.

Agreed !!

GT Audio Works · « **Reply #21 on:** 6 May 2014, 04:26 pm »

Quote from: srb on 6 May 2014, 03:50 pm

Your link goes to the wholesale Parts Express site, requiring a log-in.

How about this:
http://www.parts-express.com/tang-band-w8-1808-8-neodymium-full-range-driver--264-894

Steve

Called PE..they helped me fix the issue..it was on my end...I am a computer idiot for sure !!

happyrabbit · « **Reply #22 on:** 9 Dec 2016, 03:04 am »

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sunnydaze · « **Reply #23 on:** 9 Dec 2016, 04:00 pm »

Why do all the online comments / reviews have these speakers at $7500, yet the mfr sells them direct at $2750?

http://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649317115-sale-birch-acoustics-raven-fullrange-speaker-silver-flute-edition/

Going out of business sale?

happyrabbit · « **Reply #24 on:** 15 Dec 2016, 02:05 am »

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sunnydaze · « **Reply #25 on:** 15 Dec 2016, 02:51 pm »

Is it a cheaper / inferior driver to what was in the original $7500 Raven?

At only $160 total for the drivers, seems like an awfully big markup for cabinets and profit margin.

happyrabbit · « **Reply #26 on:** 16 Dec 2016, 06:23 am »

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Folsom · « **Reply #27 on:** 16 Dec 2016, 06:40 am »

Quote from: sunnydaze on 15 Dec 2016, 02:51 pm

Is it a cheaper / inferior driver to what was in the original $7500 Raven?

At only $160 total for the drivers, seems like an awfully big markup for cabinets and profit margin.

I can't wait for you to say that after you've made stacked plywood cabinets like that, and then tried to make a living off of it...

FullRangeMan · « **Reply #28 on:** 16 Dec 2016, 07:53 am »

The ferrite magnet Silver Flutes and his Ribbon tweeter companion are nice drivers for the price, but there is better drivers at more price-much more w/neo magnet.
At this incredible price hard to beat the Flutes, its on Madisound since 2003/4 at the same low price.

sunnydaze · « **Reply #29 on:** 16 Dec 2016, 01:51 pm »

Quote from: Folsom on 16 Dec 2016, 06:40 am

I can't wait for you to say that after you've made stacked plywood cabinets like that, and then tried to make a living off of it...

Just asking the question, my friend.

Are you his business partner?

Folsom · « **Reply #30 on:** 16 Dec 2016, 05:23 pm »

JRace · « **Reply #31 on:** 16 Dec 2016, 09:57 pm »

Quote from: sunnydaze on 15 Dec 2016, 02:51 pm

Is it a cheaper / inferior driver to what was in the original $7500 Raven?

At only $160 total for the drivers, seems like an awfully big markup for cabinets and profit margin.

the same can be said for virtually every manufactured speaker available.

beowulf · « **Reply #32 on:** 16 Dec 2016, 11:13 pm »

The speaker cabinets are beautiful, you can definitely see that a lot of thought, work and detail has gone into them. It would interesting to see how they would perform with a better driver something like AER or Voxativ.

JLM · « **Reply #33 on:** 17 Dec 2016, 03:01 pm »

My Brines Acoustics M18-F200 (floor standing single driver speakers) cost $1525 at the time (American hand made) and used $750 worth of drivers. (The extra $25 was for the commissioning fee.) Note that Bob Brines works by himself out of his garage.

The Birch Acoustic speakers do use a very elaborate, labor intensive, and inefficient design concept which would justify use of high quality drivers.

G.Michael · « **Reply #34 on:** 19 Dec 2016, 02:50 am »

I had a pair of the "Finch":

http://www.birchacoustics.com/filterless_fullrange_004.htm

Beautiful workmanship. Certainly could be called an "artisanal" speaker, with a really sweet sound. So I think that worrying about driver quality kinda misses the point. I did find the driver listed on Parts Express, I don't recall the model, but I do recall that it is nothing special. The speaker cabinet and the binding posts (more clamps than posts, actually) clearly are a labor of love. Also, the shipping crate for these little speakers is a hand-built wooden crate that weighs a lot more than do the speakers.

I sent a picture of the speakers to a buddy of mine, and he immediately wanted them Having no real need for them, I sold them to him. He has them in his office, and drives them with one of the Naim Uniti pieces.

Still have some pics:

beowulf · « **Reply #35 on:** 19 Dec 2016, 09:14 am »

Quote from: G.Michael on 19 Dec 2016, 02:50 am

I had a pair of the "Finch":

http://www.birchacoustics.com/filterless_fullrange_004.htm

Beautiful workmanship. Certainly could be called an "artisanal" speaker, with a really sweet sound. So I think that worrying about driver quality kinda misses the point. I did find the driver listed on Parts Express, I don't recall the model, but I do recall that it is nothing special. The speaker cabinet and the binding posts (more clamps than posts, actually) clearly are a labor of love. Also, the shipping crate for these little speakers is a hand-built wooden crate that weighs a lot more than do the speakers.

I sent a picture of the speakers to a buddy of mine, and he immediately wanted them Having no real need for them, I sold them to him. He has them in his office, and drives them with one of the Naim Uniti pieces.

Still have some pics:

Those are really beautiful, not a bad price either. My only complaint would be that the specs don't look efficient enough for me to use my tube amps with.

FullRangeMan · « **Reply #36 on:** 19 Dec 2016, 09:51 am »

This lateral BR duct is very good to help form a central soundstage.

Russell Dawkins · « **Reply #37 on:** 19 Dec 2016, 04:58 pm »

Quote from: FullRangeMan on 19 Dec 2016, 09:51 am

This lateral BR duct is very good to help form a central soundstage.

Really?

G.Michael · « **Reply #38 on:** 20 Dec 2016, 02:47 am »

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Those are really beautiful, not a bad price either. My only complaint would be that the specs don't look efficient enough for me to use my tube amps with.

Yeah, I doubt that they'd do well with low wattage. My gut feeling says that they'd do okay with a 6BQ5 push-pull amp (with 15 substantial watts per channel), but not much less than that. Plus, they're inherently warm-sounding, so good-quality solid state does make a good match. I now have a Virtue Audio Sensation integrated amp with a substantial power supply upgrade, which kinda makes me wish I'd kept the speakers.

Bob_Brines · « **Reply #39 on:** 23 Dec 2016, 04:03 am »

Quote from: JLM on 17 Dec 2016, 03:01 pm

My Brines Acoustics M18-F200 (floor standing single driver speakers) cost $1525 at the time (American hand made) and used $750 worth of drivers. (The extra $25 was for the commissioning fee.) Note that Bob Brines works by himself out of his garage.

Just saw this. I am a bit more proud of my work these days. If you look at my posted prices and do the math, you will see that I charge $1000 over costs for a pair of floor-standers. But you get free shipping! Oh, yeah, shipping is part of my costs, isn't it. For what it's worth, I do sell a half a dozen sets a year.

It's a funny thing about audio gear. Once I bumped my profit from $500 to $1000, my unit sales actually increased. Seems that customers take a $2500 speaker more seriously than a $1500 speaker.

Bob