JVC RX-ES1sl

RoadTripper · « **Reply #200 on:** 1 Sep 2004, 06:24 am »

Sick, I tell ya'. It's just sick how good the ES1SL with the Omega Grande 8Rs is.The DVD/Multi thing has turned the tide entirely. I no longer am doubting myself. This rig is ridiculous.

Dmason · « **Reply #201 on:** 1 Sep 2004, 02:25 pm »

Sick. Sick, as in, "sick, dude!" I agree with the above.

The baby JVC SA-X1 has been jamming along for about a week, breaking itself and the FX200 Fostex/BMW speakers in, I just sat there last night, transfixed by this "organic" sound coming at me, as if through a "lens" or "window." I listened to Mozart's Clarinet Concerto in D, -Telarc, and all the goodies were there in spades. The speed and attack of the chamber strings, the harmonics of the clarinet, the SOUL of the tune was there as I do not recall ever hearing it. This thing does massed strings even better than the Carver ZR, and by a wide margin. Then I tried The Allman Brother's "Whipping Post" and the Fender bass line in the opening was there in all its glory. The FX200 load up the 10X12 room nicely.

I regard the JVC-Fostex combo as a cut-to-the-chase recipe for high end sound of the most musical nature, with zero screwing around. Folks, this is sound I can live with forever, a system brought together for under $500. I am using only a Monster Power 3500 filter which does a great job. Black background, great dynamics, and a huge stereo image. Very different from the Vandersteens, but entirely satisfying.

tubeytubeamp · « **Reply #202 on:** 1 Sep 2004, 02:33 pm »

The DVD multi is Sweet to say the least.

I little bit of a problem. I pulled the interconnects off of my dvd input and the metal sleeve that covers one of the inputs came right off with it and it won't pop back into place. I am still able to use the dvd input "thank god" Any advise on how to fix this thing? Should I try parts express?

Thanks
Dennis

gary · « **Reply #203 on:** 1 Sep 2004, 03:01 pm »

Quote from: Dmason

The baby JVC SA-X1 has been jamming along for about a week, breaking itself and the FX200 Fostex/BMW speakers in, I just sat there last night, transfixed by this "organic" sound coming at me, as if through a "lens" or "window."

Is this what you have?

http://www.dealtime.com/xPO-JVC_FS_X1

And did you just swap out the drivers for the fostex's? I'm curious about this, seems like it could make an amazing little system for my office for just a few bucks.

Thanks
Gary

RoadTripper · « **Reply #204 on:** 1 Sep 2004, 03:26 pm »

DMason,

I thought you had the FX-10. What is a JVC SA-X1. And how did the whole cost get under $500?

Are your Fostex drivers AlNico?

Dmason · « **Reply #205 on:** 1 Sep 2004, 04:21 pm »

Panda: JVC makes three models of "executive" stereos, minisystems which employ the "hybrid dual digital feedback" amps. Go to www.jvc.ca to see them. They all use the same head end, with differing speakers. If I could only get my hands on the schematics, I would happily sacrifice one of the smaller models to reassemble onto a wood board and come up with a better power supply/coupling caps/output configuration. I am itching to see what comes of optimizing/hotrodding these WONDROUS amplifiers.

Seminarian: I do have the F10. -That is for the Vandersteens in the bigger room. In fact, I have another one on the way... I use the FS-X1 with the Fostii, in the back room, a lounge. The FX120-200 series are not the AlNiCo, but trust me, that is likely next. That to me, represents the possible end of the road, in single drivers. I am familiar with what super-magnet alloys can do for sound, and I use them top (JBL) and bottom (Jensen) in a Leslie speaker for my Hammond C-3. People are scared of the price of the F200A, but would consider $750 dead cheap for a kit with crossovers. Well, those 200A's are even better because there ain't any crossovers, and F3=40Hz is a no brainer in the 40L cabinets right off the Fostex website. I have already crunched the numbers using WIN-Isd, and have come up with a floorstanding cabinet for the F200A, providing full-enough-range sound for me-in-a-condo, and may try that down the road some, tho' the FX200's make a damn strong case on their own. If you are interested, go to the Omega site and read the review of the AlNiCo F120A review. This guy is the perfect test case, with unimpeachable experience.

TheChairGuy · « **Reply #206 on:** 1 Sep 2004, 04:49 pm »

Dang, that Canada site is much better updated then US.

Great looking construction (aluminum

) on that FS-X series stuff. D, is it as nice as it appears to be?

tvyankee · « **Reply #207 on:** 1 Sep 2004, 05:06 pm »

does anyone know if this is the same as the jvc rx-es1s?

http://www.jvc.ca/en/consumer/product-detail.asp?model=RX-DV5SL

thanks.

Dmason · « **Reply #208 on:** 1 Sep 2004, 05:23 pm »

Otto-Phile: Yes,

it is quite nice, with the usual extra dash of fit, finish and industrial design typical of JVC for many years. The knobs appear to be machined metal, and the casing is moulded white metal. In fact, between the Fostices, it makes a good statement, in my only room with real furnishings. the X1 can be had online for $114. It has the same sort of highly ergonomic remote control as well. --Remote control digitally amp'd Fostex wide range system =

Tele-Unionist: The Dv series are not of the hybrid digital ilk. That is an earlier product.

I have decided to order a pair of Fostex F200A today. When I found the flanges and taps are identical, well, ...time for mix 'n match. The plot sickens.

Carlman · « **Reply #209 on:** 1 Sep 2004, 05:37 pm »

I have an older JVC FS microsystem. I don't know the exact model, maybe the FS3? Anyway I recently had to have some work done on the transport but luckily, it was under warranty. (BTW, Circuit City has some of the worst customer service at the store level I've ever experienced.)

Right now my JVC powers some really cheap outdoor speakers. However, it has all sorts of cool things... it's stable to 4 ohms, has a TOS digital out, and an auxilliary input. It has a glass top that lifts to top load cd's.

Anyway, if this new stuff is as nice as what I have, I think it's a bargain at $115 +/- a few... I paid about $250 for mine. The sound is good but a little 'soft' sounding. I never thought of replacing the drivers with Fostex but I may try this on mine.. I'm sure it's not a digital amp but I've always enjoyed this little system. I'm glad JVC is getting some good feedback these days. It was always one of my favorite brands for consumer electronics.

The one I have looks like this but with different speakers:

Dmason · « **Reply #210 on:** 1 Sep 2004, 05:57 pm »

Yes, Carl, JVC to me has always represented a very honest and thorough product in the mass market end. Does anyone remember around c.1979 JVC had an integrated amp, 45 watt MOSFET job with big meters, AND a built in 5-band graphic EQ?? Well, I had one for several years and it was a genuinely great sounding machine for the times.

For anyone thinking about the X1, it has some pretty trick stuff, like a line out, AND sub out, the latter curiously comprehensive for a product positioned for its market. This is why I have always liked JVC. They also make, arguably, the best CD-R blanks in the world, and have an audiophile catalogue of great jazz and classical recordings, only recently published, was their own corporate archive. -JVC is a music company, and has adhered to this ethic over the years, which leads me to subscribe to the notion that it is possible that somewhere, in the "caves of corporate Japan," as Richard put it so prosaically, these digital amps were possibly voiced to sound like the tube amps that are de rigeur with Japanese audiophiles. Which then leads me to wonder what the hell would the F10 sound like powering some big-ass Karlsen horns with Lowthers??

ohenry · « **Reply #211 on:** 1 Sep 2004, 06:07 pm »

Dmason,
Forgive me for not reading all 20 pages of this to see if this has been covered, but does this amp sound similar to the other small digital tripath stuff that's been covered here (eval boards, powerwave, sonic, etc.) Thanks

Dmason · « **Reply #212 on:** 1 Sep 2004, 06:18 pm »

OHenry: In my mind the JVC approach sounds considerably better than the Tripath. I have moved on, personally. I know I started the Tripath Wars on these pages, but times are a changin'...I owe no allegiance to any product, and am but a humble servant of The Music.

I would order one of the JVC's and have a go for yourself.

ohenry · « **Reply #213 on:** 1 Sep 2004, 06:37 pm »

I was curious because I thought the tripath amps were very good with Ed's horns. And these are better?!!!

I'm really tempted to pull the trigger again. Thanks for the help.

tubeytubeamp · « **Reply #214 on:** 1 Sep 2004, 06:38 pm »

For some reason JVC resurected this 2 channel analog receiver from the dead. If they would just convert it to a Hybrid digital, our prayers would be answered for a two channel only amp.

http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL027172&pathId=

Dennis

TheChairGuy · « **Reply #215 on:** 1 Sep 2004, 07:19 pm »

Quote from: tubeytubeamp

For some reason JVC resurected this 2 channel analog receiver from the dead. If they would just convert it to a Hybrid digital, our prayers would be answered for a two channel only amp.

http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL027172&pathId=Dennis

Tubey, et al,

Yup, I do find it odd that the expensive component stuff JVC has is discrete output (Class A in the more expensive models up to $2500) and the audio-video stuff is the Hybrid-Digital F10 and whatever that pair it with. It can't be that long before the two merge and we see a real high-end receiver from JVC.

Maybe not 2 channel as that market is pretty small, but something beefier (150 watt maybe?), better and with IEC, at least, to move up the ladder.

Maybe, ummmm, $599 retail

Dmason · « **Reply #216 on:** 1 Sep 2004, 07:42 pm »

Barcalounger Buddy: Right you are: hybrid amps with a nice jumbo power supply, room in that big black case, and full size ground plane to stuff some Jensens into, and even some room to wire up a Nixon DAC to some impedance optimized front end thinking, and me thinks you would have something on the order of a Paradigm Shove. Make it $399 because it has the cheaper black stuff instead of the hi-teck. Sorry, I digress.

I just emailed JVC Canada again asking for directions to the schematics for the dual digital hybrid engine; if everyone following this thread took the time to do this, they couldn't ignore us any longer. Say 10 or 20 emails all asking for access to the goods and the gurus, likely we will see some movement. -Appeal to our Northern cousin's innate sense of propriety.

www.jvc.ca -Just Do It

beepx3 · « **Reply #217 on:** 1 Sep 2004, 09:11 pm »

Quote from: tubeytubeamp

The DVD multi is Sweet to say the least.

I little bit of a problem. I pulled the interconnects off of my dvd input and the metal sleeve that covers one of the inputs came right off with it and it won't pop back into place. I am still able to use the dvd input "thank god" Any advise on how to fix this thing? Should I try parts express?

Thanks
Dennis

Those covers should pop right back in. Other wise you can take a dremel, cut off the whole plastic thing and install some decent rca jacks for the L/R surrounds.

tubeytubeamp · « **Reply #218 on:** 2 Sep 2004, 02:40 am »

beepx3,

I was able to fix the RCA jack.

Thanks
Dennis

J North · « **Reply #219 on:** 2 Sep 2004, 10:24 pm »

Just ordered the service manual for the RX-F10S

$30CDN delivered Express Post to my door in about 3 weeks from:

Global Electronics
1070 Kamato Rd. Units 12 & 15
Mississauga, Ontario
905.624-8516
www.globalsemi.com

I'll let you guys know once I get it.

I'm planning on triamping some speakers so the F10S will be required.