LampizatOr Generation 4/Level 4... Now we're talking!

dminches · « **Reply #260 on:** 6 Dec 2013, 02:03 pm »

Thanks. I noticed that Lukasz did that on the stock tubes.

wisnon · « **Reply #261 on:** 10 Dec 2013, 04:04 pm »

Some nice feedback from Massachussetts:

My DAC passed 500 hours yesterday and it is fabulous beyond description. The following may illustrate just how fabulous:

Jim's level 5 was at my house for 3 weeks. Jim wanted to give me a long time to compare it with the Vega DAC as he was sure it would be better.

It was obvious right away that it was significantly better than the Vega which sounded crude and two-dimensional by comparison. Luckily, that all transpired prior to Lukasz's visit to Boston.

By the time of the dinner I'd decided to upgrade but the conversation with Lukasz changed everything. Thank God we talked before I sent my DAC to Poland!

Lukasz told us how phenomenal the Duelunds were. Quote: "Better than the Jensen's (in Jim's level 5) at everything they do well and better than the V-caps at everything they do well". In addition, he asked if my pre-amp was truly balanced, input to output, as, if it were, he could make my DAC truly balanced. He said that, in that case, my DAC would be much more dynamic.

Result: Lukasz was being ultra-conservative. My DAC is now in a different league than I've ever heard. To describe how, read on.

When Jim's level 5 was in residence, it was plainly better in every regard than my Auralic Vega. It, however, was not the equal of my vinyl rigs. They, both Stereo and Mono, still reigned supreme.

With only 50 to 100 hours on my new DAC, Redbook CD's, including 20-year-old ones, now were on a par with vinyl!!!

I never thought I'd ever hear or say that.... Vinyl was ALWAYS far, far superior to any digital replay regardless of software or hardware. NOTE: I've never heard any hi-res digital to compare. Perhaps I'd change my tune if I had.

BUT, when I play re-mastered CD's, most of them, so far, actually sound better than the LP's. This is not an idle statement. I have a goodly number of LP's, originally-issued CD's, and re-mastered CD's made from the same original recording. I'm comparing apples-to-apples-to-apples so to speak. Resolution, decay, ambience, engagement etc. etc. all seem better through my new DAC than from vinyl!!!

I haven't yet compared re-mastered CD's with reel-to-reel as I'm not sure I can do any direct comparisons of the same recording. I'd never have bet against reel-to-reel as they always trounce LP's but, having heard what my new DAC can do, I'm not sure at all that CD's might lose the battle.

I guess you can tell that I'm more than satisfied with my new DAC.

J.

jtwrace · « **Reply #262 on:** 10 Dec 2013, 04:22 pm »

Yeah, typical. The big Lamp supporter "Glory" has moved onto the Phasure NOS1 though.

wisnon · « **Reply #263 on:** 10 Dec 2013, 04:34 pm »

Maybe he moves back when he hears the latest build?
LoL

Who cares anyway!!! People will do what pleases them, cause its a free country and Phasure is a very good Dac in any case, plus he has owned a Lampi for over 2 years. If ithe Lampi was so bad as you constantly proclaim and you didnt like Glory's taste in dacs before, how comes you suddenly approve his current choice???

Have fun with your Vega! My pal has moved on from that dalliance. ROTFLMAO

rollo · « **Reply #264 on:** 10 Dec 2013, 04:42 pm »

Winson looking forward to hearing your DAC. Fred and Berto are friends and club members. To date our club members are very impressed. We would like to feature your DAC in one of our club meetings.

charles

shadowlight · « **Reply #265 on:** 10 Dec 2013, 04:54 pm »

winson, jtwrace,

wish both of you would stop with constant positive and negative feedback on the lampizator dac. i understand that you winson are a pro lampizator supporter but you seem to be looking for every positive feedback that you can find and replicate that comment to multiple forums. the same thing applies to jtwrace where he is doing the opposite thing or asking for measurements multiple times.

fully understand that it is a free country and everyone is allowed to free speech

back to the schedule program

wisnon · « **Reply #266 on:** 10 Dec 2013, 05:16 pm »

Shadow,

Pray tell, what is wrong with sharing valid comments from trusted Friends? this guys is a friend of mine and this is the ONLY forum I have posted this comment on.

Do NOT lump me with Jason. He is detracting from the Lampi based on NOTHING (what negative feedback has he posted?...show me even one). He never heard it, denied he got a full set of measurements in THIS very thread. Its like a personal vendetta. Absolutely ridiculous.

In any case, I KNOW people are interestred to hear this feedback becuase they have told me so. What else is this forum for?

wisnon · « **Reply #267 on:** 10 Dec 2013, 05:17 pm »

Quote from: rollo on 10 Dec 2013, 04:42 pm

Winson looking forward to hearing your DAC. Fred and Berto are friends and club members. To date our club members are very impressed. We would like to feature your DAC in one of our club meetings.

charles

My Dac? I am not the Lampizator and not even in the Audio business. I work in Pharma.

Gopher · « **Reply #268 on:** 10 Dec 2013, 05:28 pm »

Now that I have an interest in the company I'm trying to keep my own subjective comments out of this thread.

For the record, ALL feedback is welcome. That is the point of this thread. I don't care if its negative, post away!

I myself started this thread with less then flattering comparisons to Generation 3.

Just PLEASE cite actual experiences.

shadowlight · « **Reply #269 on:** 10 Dec 2013, 05:36 pm »

Sorry Fred,

Will step off.

Audioclyde · « **Reply #270 on:** 10 Dec 2013, 05:37 pm »

Fred, I dare say you've come up with quite a novel concept--that someone should actually give something a listen and post their own actual impressions!!

I'm with you; I welcome whatever feedback I can read on the Lampi (or any other product); and I take all such feedback with a grain of salt, because my room, associated equipment and listening preferences are invariably different than someone else's--but I would like for feedback to be based on actual experience with the product I'm reading about.

Gopher · « **Reply #271 on:** 10 Dec 2013, 05:44 pm »

Quote from: shadowlight on 10 Dec 2013, 05:36 pm

Sorry Fred,

Will step off.

Not at all Deepak!!!

I meant that blanketly.

jtwrace · « **Reply #272 on:** 10 Dec 2013, 06:06 pm »

Quote from: wisnon on 10 Dec 2013, 05:16 pm

He is detracting from the Lampi based on NOTHING (what negative feedback has he posted?...show me even one). He never heard it, denied he got a full set of measurements in THIS very thread. Its like a personal vendetta. Absolutely ridiculous.

dminches · « **Reply #273 on:** 10 Dec 2013, 06:58 pm »

Wisnon, I am very interested in your comments. Keep them coming. If someone doesn't like the positive or negative feedback from actual experience then they should stop reading this thread.

I assume you had you DAC made with a balanced topology from the beginning? I wonder if my sided-ended 4/4.5 can be made balanced. I will contact Lukasz about doing that in the future since my pre amp is balanced.

Did you experience a big change from 100 hours to 500?

ted_b · « **Reply #274 on:** 10 Dec 2013, 07:02 pm »

I look forward to meeting Rob (and Fred?) at T.H.E Show in Vegas. Will Lukasz be there? I am going to re-try my Lampi eval/review with a new box after the Show. I'm hoping it's the dual (PCM and DSD) version as that is more reasonable, and likely more relevant to most. But I'm open to whatever.

Geardaddy · « **Reply #275 on:** 10 Dec 2013, 07:10 pm »

Quote from: ted_b on 10 Dec 2013, 07:02 pm

I look forward to meeting Rob (and Fred?) at T.H.E Show in Vegas. Will Lukasz be there? I am going to re-try my Lampi eval/review with a new box after the Show. I'm hoping it's the dual (PCM and DSD) version as that is more reasonable, and likely more relevant to most. But I'm open to whatever.

Good for you Ted. I wish i COULD go. I believe Lucas will be there. A PCM/DSD L7 and a PCM only Big6 will be on deck.....

Berto · « **Reply #276 on:** 10 Dec 2013, 07:36 pm »

I agree Ted, a do it ALL DAC will be much better for evaluation.

Andrew, not too late to change your mind

We will send the Lampizator limo

Lukasz will definitely be there as well as help dial in the room. L7 PCM-DSD is planned and the backup will either be a BIG5 PCM-DSD or a BIG6 PCM only.

THE SHOW > Las Vegas > Jan 7th to the 10th

Room 4058-4060 at the Flamingo Hotel.

Look fwd to meeting all who can make it!

wisnon · « **Reply #277 on:** 10 Dec 2013, 09:09 pm »

Quote from: dminches on 10 Dec 2013, 06:58 pm

Wisnon, I am very interested in your comments. Keep them coming. If someone doesn't like the positive or negative feedback from actual experience then they should stop reading this thread.

I assume you had you DAC made with a balanced topology from the beginning? I wonder if my sided-ended 4/4.5 can be made balanced. I will contact Lukasz about doing that in the future since my pre amp is balanced.

Did you experience a big change from 100 hours to 500?

No my Lampi is G4 L4 Single Ended and I have Lampi DSD-only Dac. The feedback above is from my pal in the Boston area, who had a Lampi Gen3 from 2010 or so. We became pals and I even visited him and our other mutual Lampi Pal 2 summers ago. He shot me the email today. They dont post of forums be we email and chat all the time, even though I am in Geneva!

There is a new Lampi owner here in Geneva and I dare not post his feedback here or all hell will break loose! It is even more Gushing than the one above!

PM me if interested.

Regarding balanced, it only works really in a FULLY balanced system. Its not that its better, just as 4WD car is NOT better in everything, just for tough terrain. In a fully balanced setup, you get the full dynamics with a balanced Dac. However, if even one chain in the link is SE, then balanced Dac is a waste of time and money.

dminches · « **Reply #278 on:** 10 Dec 2013, 09:19 pm »

My system is fully balanced including a balanced pre amp and mono block amps.

shadowlight · « **Reply #279 on:** 10 Dec 2013, 09:42 pm »

Wisnon, jtwrace

Apology for my earlier post directed towards you guys.

No excuse for my comment