shengya s10 cd tube player

rosconey · « **on:** 4 Jul 2004, 10:29 am »

well my beloved toshiba is going poop so i bought one of these.
shengya makes players for a few decent names,vincent ,kavent, music hall and shanling from what i can gather.i've been looking for some bad reviews for these for about a year and havent seen one-all are good, also havent seen a used one yet so i figure they cant be too bad.yes its usa voltage

should arrive in a week or 10 days

specs
1. Adopting Philips VAM1202, served by CD7-11 digital IC, strengthens its CD reading and anti-vibration ability.
2. Digital Analog converting IC - Burr-Brown PCM1732 has HDCD coding capacity. Its 24 bit converting precision and 96K Hz sampling frequency enable the CDP replaying music in a great detail. Moreover, to guarantee this converting precision, the CDP uses individual powered digital clock.
3. Analog signal amplification – Burr-Brown OPA 2134 and OPA2604 has great speed and high definition. With the popular GIC filter, the digital noise can be effectively filtered out, purring the music.
4. Output tube – Philips 6922 so enriches the musicality that makes a tube preamp maybe unnecessary. 5. Ground power supply transformer annihilates the interference from outside magnetic field. Analog and digital power supply are separated to guarantee no interference between parts.

Specification:

• Weight: 16 lbs
• Dimension: 430x330x125(mm)
• Audio Output Voltage: 2 V ± 1.6 dB
• Frequency Distortion: 0.002%
• Dynamics: 112dB
• Sampling Frequencies: 96 KHz
• HDCD Compatible: Yes
• Servo System: Philip VAM1202
• HDCD Decoding, D/A conversion: Burr-Brown Core Slice PCM1732, 24 Bit
• Analog Amplification: Burr-Brown OPA2134 & OPA2604 • Noise & Hum: 95dB
• Tubes: Philip 6DJ8s/6922s
• Capacitors: SOLEN Metallized Polypropylene Film, MKP
• Repeat (A-B): Yes
• Remote Control: Fully Functional
• Remote Volume Control: 1-26
• HDCD/CD Selection: Yes, volume level 26 is for HDCD playing.

djbnh · « **Reply #1 on:** 4 Jul 2004, 11:26 am »

Quoting from the web site:

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CD-S10 Hybrid CD-player
1. Audio Output Voltage ……………… 2 V ± 1.6 dB
2. Dynamic Range………………………… 100 dB
3. Freqeuncy Distortion ……………… <0.002%
4. Weight ………………………………… 7.5 kg
Servo system of super arithmetic figure of core , CD7- II of Philip VAM1202 machine of adoption.The United States Burr- Brown company D/ A conversion core slice PCM1732,24 Bit solution code accuracy with 96 KHz sampling frequencies, HDCD signal solution code.Philip 6 DJ8s/6922s electronics tube the A drive move the electric circuit the match to develop a fever the class MKP the capacitor, “courage the flavor hundred percent", have beautiful of the voice express with big development, and mix with the type with our company's A10 bile stone to put the match to use the result uncommon.

Question - is that "A10 bile stone" anything like a Shakti stone? No wonder the poor thing "develop a fever!

Sounds like you might find some bad reviews of the S10 CD in the latest AMA Journal!

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #2 on:** 4 Jul 2004, 01:09 pm »

rosconey,

mcgsxr · « **Reply #3 on:** 4 Jul 2004, 02:12 pm »

RE : 3950 - I am sure that Rosconey will give you the details, but from what I have read in the LAB section here, and on AA, it developed some nasty distortion through one of the channels.

Rosconey - nice choice on that Shengya, I have been longing to hear one of those for some time now too - please do give us the lowdown, once it arrives. Oh yeah, when you get bored of it in 12-18 months, PM me first!

I lived in Taiwan for 2 years, and recall a couple of places in Taipei where Usher and Jungson gear was displayed. I had never heard of it at that time, but was supremely impressed with the build quality and regret not picking up a couple of pieces before coming back to Canada.

Mark

rosconey · « **Reply #4 on:** 5 Jul 2004, 10:13 am »

3950 right channel causes tweeter distortion -

Jeff Aguilar · « **Reply #5 on:** 8 Jul 2004, 11:55 pm »

I just went ahead and ordered one too. The ShengYa S-10. I have a denon 1600 that I have been using as a transport. I was going to go with either a Dack Ack! or a Tubedac+ but the denon only has optical out. So, I thought I would try this player and then invest in a dac. Currently I am running a Cayin TA-30 tube amp to a pair of Martin Logan Aerius i's. I did order a pre-amp last month from Paul at Bizzy Bee who I bought the amp from. I am anxiously awaiting hooking all this stuff up.

Jeff Aguilar

jermmd · « **Reply #6 on:** 9 Jul 2004, 01:57 am »

Did you buy this from NYSound?
I bought a Xindak SACD player from them and had some problems.
I wonder how the Xindak compares to the Sheng-Ya for redbook CD playback. The Xindak sounds amazing but has some bugs that really make it a hard recommendation.

Joe M.

Jeff Aguilar · « **Reply #7 on:** 9 Jul 2004, 03:45 am »

Yes, I did buy it from nysound.

What problems did you have?

Jeff

rosconey · « **Reply #8 on:** 9 Jul 2004, 09:45 am »

i thougt about a xindak myself but read to many bad reviews-lots of bugs with them-
i see ny sound doesnt even have them on the web page anymore,wonder if they caused more headaches than they were worth.

jermmd · « **Reply #9 on:** 9 Jul 2004, 01:22 pm »

There were excessive delays and I think NY Sound was dishonest in regards to them. I also feel they were well aware of the problems with the Xindak, yet behaved as if they didn't exist. When I inquired about return procedure, I got no response.

The problem with the Xindak is that occasionally (especially on CD-R's) it has trouble playing CD's. It doesn't seem to be able to lock onto the track and spins the CD without playing anything. Admittedly, this is rare. But when it happens, it's damn annoying. Ultimately, I'm keeping it because the sound is the best I've heard. Oh well.

Joe M.

rosconey · « **Reply #10 on:** 9 Jul 2004, 08:01 pm »

sorry to here about the problems with ny sound-i almost ordered a xindac from a chineese shop(550$), but a inmate over at aa had recieved one a week before and contacted me about the quality problems so i didnt get it.same deal as you-wont read some cd's-xindak has to be aware of the problem,cant say if ny sound should have, but they may be why they dont have xindac players anymore

Jeff Aguilar · « **Reply #11 on:** 21 Jul 2004, 08:29 pm »

I received my ShengYa CD-S10 from NYSound today. It took under two weeks to get it from China. Jim was a very nice guy and it shipped very promptly.

The player itself is beautiful. To me, it is very heavy. Much heavier than my Denon 1600. Nice thick front chasis. It looks like a very well made machine. It is at home playing cd's. Hopefully it will be ready to listen to tonight when I get home. I really like the additon of another tube piece of equipment on my audio rack. It goes very nicely with my tube amp.

Jeff

Carlman · « **Reply #12 on:** 21 Jul 2004, 08:38 pm »

I've had a tough time getting in touch with NY Sound.... So, I'll have to ask here...
If I am able to order through NYS, do they ship it direct from China? What shipping choice do I use if I order it online?
How much is/was shipping? They say they have it in stock which implies in a NY stocking location but, maybe not?

-C

Jeff Aguilar · « **Reply #13 on:** 21 Jul 2004, 08:57 pm »

I have called and spoke with Jin at NYSound several times and he has replyed to my emails, except for today. He must be out. When I spoke with him about the cd player that I got, he said that he had two of them in stock, there in his shop. He sold 4 players the same day so the one I bought was shipped directly from China.

I believe that shipping from China is airmail. His site says that they are now using DHL. My shipment did come UPS.

I would just try and call there or email him. He seems quite honest and helpful.

I would suggest buying it through their website, that way you can track your order though his site. I did not buy mine that way. That's why I kept calling him. I ended up just paypaling the money to him without going through his site. He said that next time I purchase from him to order it through his site so I could track the shipment from there.

I am happy, I got my shipment. Good luck.

Jeff

Carlman · « **Reply #14 on:** 21 Jul 2004, 09:11 pm »

He may be closed on Mondays... who knows?

I'll order it over the web.... Thanks for the info.

-C

rosconey · « **Reply #15 on:** 21 Jul 2004, 09:29 pm »

your in for a treat jeff-the bass starts coming around at 10 hours then fills out at about 30.vocals are to die for and acustic guitar sounds great-top is a little rolled off i think-not in a bad way-

i just swapped the tube the other day

mine came from china by air also-ups-shipping has gone up to 125 from 99-

i mailed my money order in on a sunday and 10 days latter had the unit-he also kept me up to date as to what was happening-recieved mo-item shipped ect.

carlman buy the s10 cs-i didnt have the dough and dont use head phones-but it is supposed to have 2 tubes not one like the s10

orthobiz · « **Reply #16 on:** 22 Jul 2004, 01:51 am »

OK, Rosconey,
I bought the 3950, think it's a bit harsh, but I love the price, saved a boatload of money.

Am ready to step up a bit, still not sure if I should bother worrying about SACD, seems like it's not perfected, perhaps too hard to get a CD and SACD all-in-one without spending the boatload I saved.

So, the Shengya looks interesting, even the more expensive CS model with more tubes. Now, pardon a couple of (dumb) questions:

(1) If I ever get a DAC (been eyeing the T-DAC Van Alstine: have the AVA preamp and amp), do I bypass the tubes in the Shengya? Maybe I'd be better off just adding the T-DAC to my current 3950?

(2) How does a CD player, or even the Tube DAC, for the matter, have only 1 tube? Isn't it a stereo unit? What does the one tube do?

Thanks!

biz

Carlman · « **Reply #17 on:** 22 Jul 2004, 02:30 am »

Quote from: rosconey

carlman buy the s10 cs-i ...

If it were different times, I would. I have about 300 to spend. So, the S-10 is all I can afford... The only thing I don't like about this player is the reference to a cheap Chevy pickup.

rosconey · « **Reply #18 on:** 22 Jul 2004, 08:58 am »

i know what yoy meen -being a dodge guy it was hard buying s10

Jose Garcia · « **Reply #19 on:** 22 Jul 2004, 04:16 pm »

Guys, how do you consider the internal construction of these units? The overall feeling?

This units seem to be using very good parts and internal component even though their cost is relatively low for what they offer.

Who will cover repairs or guarantees, NY Sound? Sheng Ya directly? or do they have any particular service center?

Jose.