Why get into vinyl?

duff138 · « **Reply #20 on:** 9 Feb 2003, 04:54 pm »

I like the sound of vinyl better. I can sit and listen to records for hours and hours. I just can't do that with CD's, very fatiguing on the ears. If you take the same recording and compare it between the CD and vinyl format it's very easy to hear why vinyl is often preferred.
The major reason for me getting into vinyl was when I started hearing original recordings on vinyl. I picked up some original U.K. parlophone pressing of The Beatles records in mono. Any CD pressing does not even come close. My brother-in-law has a few Rolling Stones original mono presses, and they too sound so much better than any CD or stereo mix. Black Sabbath on CD is terrible in comparison, Pink Floyd on CD is weak too. All sound so much better on vinyl.
CD's are great for in the car or at work.

eric the red · « **Reply #21 on:** 9 Feb 2003, 05:40 pm »

I asked this question on AA and all I got was comedy for replies (keep a lid on it

) : What are the sonic benefits of better turntables as you move up the TT quality ladder? Does the resolution become better whereas you hear more surface noise coming from the LPs, or does the sound become more vinylesque (I just made that word up

)

Besides looking cool, what can one expect from higher-end TTs

I'm asking this because MARBLES is very interested in vinyl and needs some advice

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nature boy · « **Reply #22 on:** 9 Feb 2003, 05:55 pm »

While many have said it in different ways, in a modestly resolving system, vinyl simply sounds better to my ears. A good manual turntable, arm, and cartridge set up generally outshines CD redbook play back IMO. One of the primary reasons I upgraded my turntable last year, was a relative large collection of albums that I rediscovered (boxed up since our last move).

That said, vinyl is more work than CD's or SACD's. They need to be cleaned, you need adequate storage space, you need to flip them every 20 minutes or so when listening, and if you have a line stage preamplifier or modest integrated amplifier you often need to add a good phono preamp.

The variety of of used jazz and classical music titles on vinyl is simply astounding. You would be surprised when telling family and friends that you're listening to albums again, how many boxes of vinyl will come your way.

If your undecided, go to a dealer and A-B the same title on vinyl vs. CD. I compared Stevie Ray Vaughn's "Tin Pan Alley", Sarah Vaugh "Crazy and Mixed Up" (JVC XRCD), Oscar Peterson & Count Basie "Satch and Josh (JVC XRCD2) and Allison Krauss "Forget About It" on a Nottigham Interspace turntable w/ Interspace arm & Dynavector 10X4mkII vs. and Accuphase DP-75V in a fairly high resolution system recently. I liked the vinyl on the Nott much better.

Your results and opinion may vary.

NB

eric the red · « **Reply #23 on:** 9 Feb 2003, 06:15 pm »

I think I found my first TT

http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?anlgtabl&1049997934&2&3&4&

Hantra · « **Reply #24 on:** 9 Feb 2003, 06:32 pm »

Bitchin'!

Is that the Origin Live supermodded tonearm? Rare, to say the least!

eric the red · « **Reply #25 on:** 9 Feb 2003, 06:52 pm »

I just bought it

JoshK · « **Reply #26 on:** 9 Feb 2003, 06:53 pm »

I got into vinyl because I inherited a moderate collection. Then I was able to find some really cool stuff on vinyl that doesn't exist on digital or sounds like crap on digital (PF cd's for example). Then it has become a hobby searching NYC for the vinyl releases, cleaning them up and spin them. Then there is the whole teres project I am undertaking. Brandon is helping me out on it. Thanks Brandon!

Mathew_M · « **Reply #27 on:** 9 Feb 2003, 07:03 pm »

You know what would be really funny, albeit a bit weird would be to pull that little Seiko out on airplane. It reeks of an Apple ad spoof. Have some jerky 13 old kid with his/her iPod and Robert Crumb sitting side by side in coach. The kid is rocking out to Limp Bizkit while Crumb and his contorted trademark facial expression listens to Leroy Smith and his Orchestra on some moldy 78.

eric the red · « **Reply #28 on:** 9 Feb 2003, 07:22 pm »

Check out the box where it says "Ultra-modern styling, stereo sound". Stereo sound with one speaker

Brandon B · « **Reply #29 on:** 9 Feb 2003, 11:45 pm »

Quote from: JoshK

Then there is the whole teres project I am undertaking. Brandon is helping me out on it. Thanks Brandon!

I now have a reeeeeally heavy 4'x8' sheet of clear stuff sitting in my garage. Can you drive out and help me get it on my tablesaw?

BB

Tonto Yoder · « **Reply #30 on:** 10 Feb 2003, 12:25 am »

Quote from: Beezer

. In the Bay Area, we have Ameoba Records, which has endless amounts of LPs to look over, new and used, at reasonable prices for the most part. Current music is pretty limited, but some is available as mentioned in earlier posts.

Beez

Lp Now is a decent place to get new vinyl too.

http://store.yahoo.com/lpnow/bestsellers.html

The $6 Lucinda Williams EP sounds great. $6 flat fee shipping favors making a big order. Coupons are avilable onsite.

Hantra · « **Reply #31 on:** 10 Feb 2003, 01:54 am »

Josh:

Can you post details on the Teres project?

That'd be really cool!

B

nathanm · « **Reply #32 on:** 10 Feb 2003, 02:02 am »

Quote from: Mathew_M

You know what would be really funny, albeit a bit weird would be to pull that little Seiko out on airplane. It reeks of an Apple ad spoof. Have some jerky 13 old kid with his/her iPod and Robert Crumb sitting side by side in coach. The kid is rocking out to Limp Bizkit while Crumb and his contorted trademark facial expression listens to Leroy Smith and his Orchestra on some moldy 78.

WilliamL · « **Reply #33 on:** 10 Feb 2003, 02:30 am »

This may be sacrilege, but...

Give me the mobility, ease of use, etc. of CDs any day over vinyl. I hate to fuss over music. If I want the ultimate in sound, I will go see the Philharmonic live.

I traded in a lot of rare vinyl that would probably fetch a nice price on ebay. It was a small price to pay for me to be "state of the art" back in the late 80's

Cheers,
Bill

audiojerry · « **Reply #34 on:** 10 Feb 2003, 04:10 pm »

Duff wrote:

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I like the sound of vinyl better. I can sit and listen to records for hours and hours. I just can't do that with CD's, very fatiguing on the ears. If you take the same recording and compare it between the CD and vinyl format it's very easy to hear why vinyl is often preferred

That's exactly my experience too. I have experienced some really big improvements in digital playback, and cd's can sound really good now. It's due to much better d to a technology, and cabling, I think. You still need well recorded cd's, but the same holds true for vinyl.

Used record albums are very cheap, and my son and I often buy boxes full of old albums for a couple of bucks, but for every 10 records, maybe only one is a keeper. However, when you do play a great record on a turntable, it still blows away a cd playback system, even when the analog playback gear may cost thousands less. I've got a Rega Planar 25 with RB600 tonearm, Dynavector cartridge, and an upgraded Lehman Black Cube and power supply. I'd say it's middle of the road pricewise for hi-rez analog, but it still sounds noticeably better than my digital. Like Duff said, the biggest thing about analog is that you can listen to it for hours without fatigue.

That being said, I still listen to digital at least 80% of the time. It's so much more convenient.

JoshK · « **Reply #35 on:** 10 Feb 2003, 04:14 pm »

Hantra,

I will share my developments. Right now I am mostly in the waiting period. I am waiting for some specs from Chris Brady, some parts (motor, bearing) and Brandon is basically building me the platter. I have the base I am going to use but I haven't drilled it yet because I am awaiting the specs. I have a digital camera so I will take lots of shots along the way and start a sub album in my gallery.

Beezer · « **Reply #36 on:** 10 Feb 2003, 04:32 pm »

Tonto, thanks for the lpnow link. I just placed an order and made sure to get the Lucinda EP along with another LP they have by her.

Beez

RooX · « **Reply #37 on:** 10 Feb 2003, 05:23 pm »

Quote from: pjchappy

But, as far as I know, Radiohead, Son Volt, Travis, Coldplay, and many others aren't on vinyl. I think some Beck is on vinyl. . .but, I just don't know. . .

p

your not looking hard enough, all of radioheads albums are one vinyl, they sound amazing. Coldplay and travis are on vinyl too! get out there and find em! worth every penny (actually i bought my radiohead albums for about 14 buck canadian each, and ive seen both travis and coldplay in the 18$ canadian range)

cheers,
Colin

JoshK · « **Reply #38 on:** 10 Feb 2003, 05:38 pm »

Agreed,

I have all of Radiohead's on vinyl, which are much better than their CD versions IMO. Don't have Travis or Coldplay because I don't want them. Have nearly all of Fugazi's on vinyl (good stuff) and a Weezer or two, NIN's PHM and TDS, Tool's Undertow (really worth finding on vinyl, imo), At the Drive In's albums, a alb or two of the Hives, a Wilco alb, demolition by Ryan Adams, ...And you will know us by the trail of the dead (4.8/5.0!), etc, etc. There is just lots of good music on vinyl still, not all are great but many of the new releases worth having are released on vinyl.

Hantra · « **Reply #39 on:** 10 Feb 2003, 07:47 pm »

Sweet! I like some Fugazi!

Never seen it on vinyl, but I may have to pick it up, along with "The Bends".

B