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Why would it take a year or two to put the already designed modules in a bigger box?
Other companies are interested in Maraschino technology as well, and just supporting them is lots of work.
Cool. Can you elaborate on this? Who? What.....?BTW-I never said to throw it in a box but it's not that hard.
Glad I ran across this thread. Two-channel amps with integrated power supply would be great as "amp packs" on 2-way actives. Earlier in the thread, you said that power can go much higher but eventually at sonic expense. Do you have a rough idea on where that power level lies with a supply made specifically for the Maraschino?Mono units with integrated power supply would be great sub amps too. Maybe goose the power a bit for this application?I'm looking at this for an upcoming 8-channel "stereo" system. 4-channels for active 2-way main speakers, and 4 channels for sub "swarm." Every speaker/sub built with amps attached. Volume/crossovers/EQ will be handled digitally. All 8 amps fed via balanced XLR. Maraschino could do well here.So I bring up power from my perspective, as food for thought. All the various speakers I may bring into this system can take copious amounts. Geddes Abbey is definite, and possibly others. Danley SM60F, Ohm Walsh, and Pioneer EX all appeal to me for various reasons. I consider 200W/400W/ch into 8/4ohm a good target power level for the main speakers. This will be adequate with the Geddes and Danleys for home use, although both can handle more power. It's not clear how much power the Ohms can take but some veterans swear by their 500/1000W amps for best dynamics. So while a really clean 200W/400W amp wouldn't be theoretically enough to max out these speakers under all circumstances, it should be enough for 99% of real world use. Most of my listening isn't very loud but I don't like excuses when the volume does rise a bit.Sub drivers can often take massive amounts of power too, some between 1000-2000 watts. 300/600W seems like a good start, and 500/1000W even better. I completely "get" that this is likely outside the Maraschino design spec, so I'm not banking on this as much. Still, class D makes tons of sense for sub amps, and while common wisdom is to use any old thing for the subs, I think they deserve a little love too. If you make too many compromises, they start adding up!Anyways, appetizing stuff Tommy. Looking forward to reading more about them.
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Ugly IMO.
Ugly??? Your "IMO" qualifier does not make the cut as an element of the basic courtesy, civility or diplomacy that Tommy's efforts and persona deserve. I wonder what empowers you to declare so categorically that something is ugly...you, for sure may scream to the four winds that, personally, you DO NOT like something.... but an abrupt declaration that it is "UGLY" without any constructive observation? I thought the assumed role of an AC "volunteer" as a moderator implied moderation from the "volunteer" as well
The past few weeks I have had the good fortune to play with a pr of Tommy's Maraschino amps. As many know he is a friend of mine so the requisite "Audio Buddy" disclosure has now been performed Thumbs UpFull technical details, as I know them:Frequency Response: Low to highDistortion: Probably not muchInput impedance: SomePower consumption: Just a littleWeight: LightPower output: EnoughCost: YesSeriously I don't know squat about specs or measurements, or even if these are final production units.What I can say is that they are powered by Elpac switching power supplies, 48V, 220 watt output. Because T claims the amps to be very efficient even for class D, lets figure about 200 watt max output. I haven't come close to stressing them out. He is thinking of other power supply options and I suggested maybe battery but I don't know if batts can do 48V. I think T said he can goose lots more power out of them depending on the pwr supply. I'd like to see them mounted in a Cherry case w/ the same big-ass transformer I already have. DroolThe amps are quite small, maybe 3"x4"x5" and light due to the external power supply. I don't know if these are in the commercial chassis or not.I don't have them hooked up optimally, meaning I use my standard 1M XLRs and my standard ~10 or 15 foot biwire runs of speaker cable (strewn all about the floor!). In an ideal install I'd use long cables from the pre and really short speaker cables. In fact I have seen Tommy hang them from the speaker input jacks w/ just a few inches of cable. I think it'd be bitchin to have a pr of amps for each of my my biwired Von Schweikert VR4JRs but alas I have to slum it with 1 amp per speaker for now.OK now the hard part - What do they sound like? In comparison to my Stereo Cherry w/ the mondo 1800 VA transformer, the Maraschinos sound more detailed and faster overall. Little subtleties seem more apparent, like the decay of notes, that second melody line that adds to the score, stuff like that. I think T said these amps run at many times the switching frequency of the previous Cherries (which were already fast) and it sounds like it. In my system they have excellent, very detailed bass performance but don't seem to have the sledgehammer bass of the big Cherry. I like sledgehammer bass. I wouldn't call the little guy's bass lightweight, but it doesn't grab you like the Cherry bass does. But the detail, speed and ease of the Maraschinos is wonderful. Never etched or hyper, just effortless and precise. They are very quiet which makes me think I need to get my Cherry back to Tommy's lab for a checkup.What else to say, they sound great. The true test will be when I hook the Cherry back up but that'll have to wait until Mr. T can hear his little pups in my system.Sure do wounder how 4 of these would sound...-Mike
The Maraschino's I've been lucky enough to audition in my system for the past few weeks use countersunk, flush, silver phillips head screws. I don't know if final production will go this way but I like the fit n' finish the flush look gives.Not crazy about the wood top - looks disjointed from the base. And if Tommy asks what we think and 100% say "It's UGLY!" then that's the feedback he's looking for (IMO and knowing him). I doubt T has a hint of negativity toward jtwrace's nice and succinct comment BTW I posted a little review the other day, copied here:In the review, I glossed over the fact that I'm auditioning a Convergent Audio Technology SL-1 Ultimate preamp at the moment, and the difference from my VAC Standard MKII is easily heard through the Maraschinos.-Mike
Yes, there is a path to KW power levels, but this is going to take some time. Maraschino is SUPER clean at any power level. It's a matter of heat dissipation and the power supply.By the way, digital crossovers get me very excited! The ultimate digital system should power each driver individually. This system sounds (pun) wonderful, and I'd like to hear more about it. Some photos, perhaps????
The Maraschino's I've been lucky enough to audition in my system for the past few weeks use countersunk, flush, silver phillips head screws. I don't know if final production will go this way but I like the fit n' finish the flush look gives.Not crazy about the wood top - looks disjointed from the base. And if Tommy asks what we think and 100% say "It's UGLY!" then that's the feedback he's looking for (IMO and knowing him). I doubt T has a hint of negativity toward jtwrace's nice and succinct comment -Mike